We have discovered an astounding mathematical pattern in the orientation of pyramids and temples around the world. Ancient structures align with different geographic poles that existed in the past due to crustal deformations. Geology has called this phenomenon, true polar wander, and believes it happened on a much longer time scale. Because the rhythm between the ancient poles, hence the crustal shifts, match the temperature changes of the last series of ice ages, the probability that this match is coincidental is 0.4%. Ancient humans built these monuments over hundreds of thousands of years. Part of the ancient monuments are as old as early Homo sapiens themselves. Many of these monuments were later rebuilt or modified, but the majority preserved their original orientation. Our research is revolutionary and opens a new door into the hidden mysteries of deep antiquity. Welcome!
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How Ancient Structures Reveal the Secrets of Earth’s History
The key aspects of our method is the orientation of ancient buildings. Orientation is a purely mathematical concept, because it does not depend on any physical or material properties. Orientation is dimensionless, it has no units, it is timeless and it is weightless. These features reveal its power beyond what science has acknowledged, because science, being materialistic, overlooks the dimensionless mathematics. Orientations only describe the relative direction or angle of something with respect to a reference point. For example, the size, weight, or chemical composition of a building might change over time due to erosion, decay, or renovation. But its orientation remains the same, unless it is deliberately altered or destroyed. However, the original signal can still be detected when the original foundation is used for rebuilding. The orientation of a building is defined by the direction it faces or points to.
Even in the case of the very ancient Harappa civilization, archaeologists discovered older foundations beneath the current ones that are differently oriented, without giving any meaning, validation or credit to this discovery. But we did, and we discovered that this so called Indus Valley Civilization is far older than archaeology believes. We found out that this civilization is originally between 130,000 and 155,000 years old. We’re talking about an advanced civilization here. Our proof is 96.8% certain. Just by looking at orientation patterns of Harappa alone!
Many ancient buildings around the world were oriented with a specific purpose or meaning in mind. Some of them were aligned with the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west. These directions are determined by the geographic pole, which is the axis of rotation of the Earth. Some examples of cardinally oriented buildings are the pyramids of Giza in Egypt, the Yerkes Observatory in Wisconsin, the White House in Washington D.C., the Taj Mahal in India, Angkor Wat in Cambodia, and the Vatican in Italy. These buildings reflect the current geographic pole and cardinal system that we use today.
However, when we analyze the orientation of virtually all ancient buildings around the world, we discovered something amazing. We find that many of them do not align with the current geographic pole and cardinal system. Instead, they point to different geographic poles that existed in the past, due to crustal displacements caused by planetary expansion. This reveals a hidden pattern and history of ancient civilizations that has been overlooked by mainstream archaeology and geology.
Our research is groundbreaking and revolutionary. It offers a new perspective and paradigm on antiquity and its mysteries. It is based on a novel mathematical method that is simple and powerful. You will not find anything like this anywhere else on the internet, except maybe some copies or imitations of our original material on other websites.
A Simple and Powerful Discovery
Crustal Displacements and Ancient Civilizations: A Mathematical Connection
Our revolutionary model is based on pure mathematics, and it is supported by a vast array of facts from various sources. However, some people are shocked and incredulous by our findings. They refuse to accept that there is any evidence for our model to be true, and they ignore or dismiss our arguments. But how can anyone challenge or reject the established facts of mathematics?
Our new dating model is not only backed up by our mathematical proof, but also by other types of evidence, such as flood myths and stories of “Visitors from the Sky” that are found in many ancient cultures. Moreover, our conclusion is corroborated by scientific observations from different fields, such as the orientation of ancient sites, paleomagnetic data, orbital data of the Earth, and ice core data. All these data point in the same direction, and they confirm our model. There is no way to avoid or deny our conclusions.
Most people are even more astonished when they discover the time frames that we have mathematically proven in our theory. When it comes to ancient civilizations, we have all been taught to think in terms of a few thousand years. But we have found evidence of a much longer and deeper human history that spans more than 350,000 years.
The pyramids of Giza are among the youngest ancient structures on this planet. They are cardinally oriented, which means they align with the current geographic pole. They are the culmination of very advanced civilizations that once inhabited the whole planet.
Agreement on Multiple Fronts and Resolving Conflicts on Several Levels

How the Method Works: A Simple and Effective Approach
We have created a database of pyramids and temples from different parts of the world and analyzed their orientation. We have found that they align in a remarkable mathematical pattern that creates several intersection points. The chances of these large nodes occurring randomly are very low for each point.
These nodes are aligned along latitude lines, which suggest that they are related to major climate shifts caused by crustal movements. Interestingly, we have also found that the distances between nodes match the temperature changes of the past ice ages. Moreover, most of these nodes are concentrated around Greenland. The probability of this pattern coinciding with the temperature fluctuations over the last 350,000 years is 1 in 256.
But there is more. When we look closer at this pattern, we see that the probability of the nodes and the temperature changes fitting together in this specific area is even lower: 1 in 750,000. This is not a coincidence, but a strong mathematical “signal” from nearly 1,200 ancient structures around the world. We have uncovered an ancient phenomenon that has been ignored by conventional science, similar to a hidden message from outer space. It is time to pay attention!
The Orientation of Ancient Structures is the Key to a Deeper Insight

Mathematical Nodes: A Clue to Greenland’s Past and Future
Greenland is a large island with a massive ice sheet of unknown origin. But why does it have so many mathematical nodes running over it? And why do the distances between these nodes match the graphs of glaciation cycles shown below? Is this just a coincidence? It seems very unlikely. The chance of this happening randomly is very low.
This is a strong evidence for the existence of ancient geographic poles, and the true age of ancient structures. Our method shows how the crust shifted in latitude over time. The older the nodes, the more the crust has accumulated deformations. This makes sense, right?
Our theory also explains why and how Greenland’s ice sheet formed. It was because the crust moved Greenland over the spin axis. Greenland’s ice sheet is the last remnant of the huge glaciers that once covered North America, North Europe, and part of Northern Russia. And now it is obvious why this ice sheet will melt, right? Greenland’s location is not cold enough to keep the ice sheet growing or stable. It will melt slowly over time.
How Science Can Improve by Changing Its Ideas
Our theory offers a possible explanation for why CO2 levels follow the temperature changes in the ice cores and why they are not the main driver of past climate variations seems more evident. We can now address some of the outstanding big questions.
It appears that many climate scientists have neglected the fact that Greenland is also the central point of the combined Laurentide, Innuition, and Scandinavian ice sheets.
To “simulate” an icecap on Greenland with computer models that assume this island was never on the geographic pole, a climate scientist would need to use the most unrealistic and unscientific models possible. Climate science is not based on solid evidence – it is a subbranch of science that mostly conforms to the agendas of politicians. Mainstream scientists are reluctant to oppose this agenda and jeopardize their funding.
Our discovery casts doubt on many established ideas in history, paleontology, archaeology, climatology, and geology. Mathematics, as the highest form of science, does not care about ideas based on material “evidence.” Mathematics is the only constant truth wherever we are, whatever we do, whatever we believe, and no matter how much mathematics is disliked or feared. Mathematics can show us that most commonly accepted ideas, from history to geology, are partially based on immature science, because belief systems are still at the core of many sciences.
The North Pole’s Migration and Its Mathematical Link to Ancient Monuments

Ice Ages Were Crustal Displacements
Our new paradigm, based entirely on mathematics, offers a plausible hypothesis about Humanity’s ancient history and its relation to the Earth. It leaves no room for doubt about the astonishing antiquity of humanity and their ancient monuments, and it sheds light on many of the ancient mysteries. Floods were not myths; they were caused by crustal deformations. Science has discovered the ultimate evidence for these events in the Antarctic ice cores, but it misinterpreted them and called them “ice ages.”
It is also important to realize that not all ancient buildings were aligned with an ancient geographic pole. We found that less than half of the ancient monuments in the database did not match any of the nodes. Isn’t that expected? After all, we do not live in a perfect world. Not all ancient architects oriented their structures to the cardinal directions, but most of them did, and thus they left a vital and lasting message for us.
We showed with our new dating method that the geographic North pole moved cyclically in the latitudinal direction over long periods due to expansion. Antarctica stayed at a relatively stable position during the expansion cycles, while the North pole shifted in stages over an angle of almost 38° over the last 350,000 years due to planetary expansion.
The Secret Compass Hidden in Ancient Buildings
Suppose someone wants to build a house on the heath, far from civilization. The house will have a square or rectangular shape. How will this person choose the orientation of the house? Will they follow the cardinal directions? The rising sun? The prevailing winds? The local geography? Or something else? What could this “something else” be?
This may not matter much for an ordinary house, but what about an astronomical observatory? How would an architect orient it? Most observatories are aligned with the cardinal directions. This makes sense. How else could one observe the sky?
If we look at how many cities in the US were built from scratch in remote areas, we see that they are often oriented cardinally. Any other orientation is a kind of random game. A nearly chaotic process of fitting buildings as efficiently as possible in the available space.
Many architects will align their project with the cardinal directions when they have enough space to do so – and some will not. There are many reasons for this, from spatial planning to natural environmental factors like mountains or rivers. This is how this simple (though mathematically complex) method works – it can uncover some hidden aspects of very ancient civilizations.
Proof for Homo sapiens’ Continuous Building Activity
Many people think that there were no advanced humanoids who could build structures when the Earth was going through a series of ice ages over the past hundreds of thousands of years. How do we know that this is true? Because we have no “evidence”? We need more than just vague indications of evidence.
We should be careful about what we consider as evidence. How often have we seen evidence that was later contradicted by other, newer pieces of evidence? When evidence relies on dimensions and measurements such as kilos, Newtons, meters, seconds, Joules, and so on, it is likely that it will be challenged one day by other “standards” of evidence.
Homo sapiens has been on this planet for more than 300,000 years and has been a skilled builder from the beginning. It is the species itself that determines its abilities and not the institutions that we call “educational training”. Homo sapiens has a natural curiosity and creativity that drives it to explore and create. It is not limited by the climate or the environment. It is capable of adapting and innovating. It is possible that Homo sapiens built many structures in the past that we have not yet discovered or recognized.
One way to find out more about these ancient structures is to use mathematics as a tool. Mathematics is neutral and objective. It does not depend on human opinions or interpretations. It does not change over time or space. It is the same for everyone and everywhere. Mathematics can reveal patterns and relationships that are hidden or overlooked by other methods. Mathematics can help us understand the logic and design of ancient structures and their alignment with the poles. Mathematics can help us date and locate these structures and their builders. Mathematics can help us discover the secrets of our ancient history.
Orientation: A Purely Mathematical Concept
Orientation is a concept that has no physical dimension, only a mathematical one. It is not something that we can touch or measure with material units. For example, 90° = ½π and 180° = π, and so on. These are angles that describe the direction of something relative to a reference point. Location is similar; it is also expressed in degrees or Pi, without any material units attached to it. No matter how small or large a planet is, these numbers do not change. These are coordinates that describe the position of something relative to a reference frame. By using orientation and location to define ancient buildings, such as pyramids and temples, the ancient builders show us a way to discover an ultimate and hidden truth: our real ancient history.
Once you understand this concept fully, you will see a whole new world opening up to you!
We have found that ancient buildings often have orientations that relate to ancient cardinal points (like a compass), especially because we have processed and analyzed them in large quantities. The patterns are undeniable, and they immediately show the connection between ancient structures and glaciation cycles. We have concluded that glaciation cycles are caused by latitudinal crustal shifts, which result in “ice ages”. These shifts changed the position of the geographic North pole over time, and thus affect the orientation of the ancient buildings. By studying the orientation and location of these buildings, we can reconstruct the history of the Earth’s crust and climate, and also the history of the ancient civilizations that originally built them.
Examples of Orientations

Why Satellite Footage is Preferred Over Field Work

We have developed a novel method to date the pyramids and other ancient structures based on their orientation, without any need for excavation or physical contact. This is a remarkable achievement that demonstrates the power and elegance of mathematics over the conventional materialistic sensory-based science.
How does this method work? By analyzing the orientation and location of thousands of ancient buildings around the world, we were able to establish a clear relationship between their alignment and their age. This correlation has profound implications for our understanding of the history and culture of ancient civilizations.
This method is also more efficient and less invasive than traditional archaeological techniques. Instead of spending years digging up the ground and potentially damaging the monuments, we can simply use satellite imagery and mathematical models to estimate their age. This way, we can preserve the integrity and beauty of these ancient wonders while gaining new insights into their origins and purposes.
The Hidden Power of Orientation in Archaeology
One of the most surprising and overlooked aspects of ancient structures is their orientation. Archaeology has never seriously been busy with the concept of orientation at all, despite its potential to reveal important information about the history and culture of ancient civilizations. Why is this so?
One possible reason is that archaeology has been dominated by a materialistic and sensory-based approach that focuses on tangible and visible evidence, such as artifacts, inscriptions, and monuments. Orientation, on the other hand, is an abstract and mathematical concept that requires a different kind of thinking and analysis.
Another possible reason is that archaeology has been influenced by a Eurocentric and modernist perspective that assumes that ancient people were primitive and ignorant of astronomy and geometry. Orientation, therefore, is seen as a random or insignificant feature that has no bearing on the meaning or purpose of ancient structures.
These reasons, however, are not valid or justified. Orientation is a crucial and fascinating aspect of ancient structures that deserves more attention and research. Orientation can tell us a lot about the knowledge and beliefs of ancient people, as well as their connection to the Earth and the cosmos. Orientation can also help us date and compare ancient structures across different regions and time periods. Orientation can even reveal hidden secrets and mysteries that have been lost or forgotten for many millennia.
Why We Need an Intersection Line
Finding the intersection point of the orientation of two randomly-picked structures that are not aligned with the cardinal directions is unlikely to yield any meaningful information. This is because their intersection point could be anywhere on the globe, and there is no reason to assume that they have any connection or significance. For example, the pyramids of Giza and the tomb of Ping of Han in China intersect at the current geographic North pole (fig. 5), which suggests that they were deliberately oriented in this way. But what about the majority of structures that are not cardinally oriented?
Can we find any pattern or logic in the orientation of two structures that have an arbitrary angle? For instance, what if we look at Teotihuacan and the Great Ziggurat of Ur? Their intersection point is 35.050N, 93.675W. What does this tell us? Nothing of interest, as far as we know, because we have no clue why these two structures have their unique orientation. No archaeologist can explain why Teotihuacan or the Great Ziggurat of Ur are not aligned with the cardinal directions.
Intersecting lines are just mathematical constructs that have no meaning by themselves. They only become meaningful when we compare and analyze many hundreds of them from different structures and then look for patterns and trends in the data.
How the Intersection Line is Determined

How Earth’s Expansion Moved the North Pole
One of the intriguing questions that arises from our research is how the geographic North pole could have moved so smoothly in the latitudinal direction along the reference line of 47.1W. However, this movement was not as perfect or regular as it may seem. It was actually a complex and irregular process that took hundreds of thousands of years.
We have found the most plausible explanation for this migration pattern: the expansion of the earth.
As we have explained, the crust did not shift uniformly. It underwent severe deformation and distortion, while Antarctica remained relatively stable. This deformation was caused by planetary expansion that pushed the crust outward from the center of the earth.
In Fig 14, we have illustrated the locations of the Poles I to VI with red dots. The size of the red dot indicates the age of each pole, with larger dots representing older poles. The path of the pole is determined by the edges of the red dots, which shows that it was not a straight line, but a rough latitudinal curve.
The reason why the red dots become larger with age is because of the increasing uncertainty of pinpointing a pole within a certain radius. This is because the crust was constantly changing and reshaping due to the crustal displacements.
Orientations on Both Hemispheres are Fundamentally Different

Instantaneous Proof: No Probability of Such a Spread being Coincidental
We have found that many ancient structures around the world share a common orientational feature that cannot be explained by chance. We have found mathematical proof that these structures were aligned with a common geographic pole, which is the spin axis of the earth. However, this pole has not been fixed over time. It has changed its position as the crust has expanded and deformed.
This deformation of the crust has been overlooked by geology for a long time. Geologists have measured it, but they have not interpreted it as a movement of the crust. They have attributed it to “glaciation cycles”, which is a reasonable assumption if you believe that the crust and the earth have been stable for hundreds of thousands of years.
Ironically, geologists have accepted the movement of the “invisible” magnetic field, which is much more massive and complex than the crust. They have assumed that the magnetic field can change directions abruptly and unpredictably, like the weather. But they have ignored the fact that even paleomagnetism, the study of the ancient magnetic field, supports the idea of drastic movements of the crust. When we incorporate the crustal movements in their data, we find that their errors and contradictions are reduced significantly. This adds to the mountain of evidence that we already have.
We have proof from different angles, and they all point to the same astonishing truth. The mythical cataclysms were not myths, but real events that shook the earth and its inhabitants. The ancient architects knew this, and they oriented their structures to a very different geographic pole. Our proof is multifaceted and profound – it goes deep down into the rabbit hole.

Probable Cause of the Earth’s Expansion and Crustal Deformation
We have developed a hypothesis that the expansion of the earth is caused by the influx of subatomic particles from the sun. These particles are emitted by the sun in the form of solar wind and coronal mass ejections (CMEs), which are huge eruptions of plasma. These particles reach the earth and interact with its magnetic field, which has a donut-like shape with two poles at the north and south ends.
The magnetic field acts as a shield and a funnel for the solar particles. Some of them are deflected by the field, while others are trapped and guided by the field lines to the polar regions, mainly to the negatively charged South pole. These areas are called the polar cusps, and they allow the particles to enter the earth’s atmosphere and interior.
We propose that these particles accumulate inside the earth over time, creating extra matter that pushes the planet from within. We also propose that this process is more pronounced at the south pole than at the north pole. This is because the south pole is negatively charged, while the north pole is positively charged. The heaviest solar particles are mostly positively charged protons, so they are more attracted to the south pole than to the north pole.
This imbalance creates a pressure gradient inside the earth, with more pressure at the south pole than at the north pole. This internal pressure gradient drives a flow of matter from the south pole to the north pole, like a sort of atomic plume. This flow of matter causes the earth to expand and deform over time, resulting in crustal displacements, polar migrations and changes in orientation of ancient structures.
We have found several pieces of evidence that support our hypothesis. For example, we have observed that Antarctica has remained relatively stable and unchanged over millions of years, while other continents have shifted and drifted apart. We have also observed that there is a correlation between solar activity and seismic activity on earth. Our hypothesis is still speculative and needs more testing and verification, but we have evidence that it offers a plausible and novel explanation for the expansion of the earth and its consequences for ancient structures and civilizations.
Collective Orientation of Contemporary Buildings
You might wonder if modern buildings also have a collective orientation that deviates from North, just like the ancient ones we studied. But that is not the case. When we look at the data from contemporary buildings, we see that they align almost exactly with our current geographic pole and cardinal directions.
This is true for any region, country, continent, or the whole world. Modern cultures do not seem to favor any other direction than the cardinal ones.
This is part of our evidence to show that ancient buildings had a different orientation for a reason: the geographic pole was in a different place back then, a very long time ago. Our mathematical model contradicts what the conventional history books tell us. History has been too much the terrain of believing scholars for much too long. It is time for another approach.
We used a random location generator for every continent and created a list of 392 contemporary buildings with their location and orientation. When we calculated their average orientation, they all pointed to our current geo pole within ±0.5°. This result confirms that, when we combine the orientation of many independent buildings, they will always point to their geographic pole.

What is the Time Frame for These Ancient Poles?
According to our new perspective on ancient times, the crust shifts (along with its pole) in the latitudinal direction and triggers a new glaciation cycle.
Most researchers, even the most unconventional ones, limit themselves to a time span of a few thousand years. They have never ventured to imagine hundreds of thousands of years. That is why the many ancient structures and myths remain mysterious.
Our new dating method reveals a different history and helps us explain most of the mysteries that no one has ever solved before. There are too many dating puzzles around the world that scholars try to squeeze into less than 10,000 years, which is, based on our extensive research, utterly unreasonable. The labor force required to build all these tens of thousands of structures in a few thousand years was not available. That is another sign that the official timelines are wrong.
We confidently propose a time span of over 400,000 years. Our conclusions are fully supported by data and mathematics.
Consider the Mysteries and Start to Wonder
What are the mysteries we are trying to solve here? You need to keep in mind a long list of mysterious sites to appreciate the scale and complexity of our ancient past, such as:
- What is the purpose and origin of the hundreds of pyramids around the world?
- What is the meaning and function of the thousands of dolmens around the world?
- How were ancient monuments like Puma Punku, Sacsayhuaman, Teotihuacan, Göbekli Tepe built and used? There are thousands of them across the globe.
- How and why were the Nazca lines created?
- Have we ever agreed on how, when and why the pyramids of Giza were built? And if you think you have solved one of these puzzles, don’t celebrate yet, because you have only scratched the surface of the mystery.
- Do you know about the mysterious Kailasa temple? If you have figured out Giza, try to explain this one.
- What about Baalbek, Mount Shoria (Russia), Stonehenge, Carnac, Easter Island, and Yonaguni?
- How did they make, move, and place megaliths weighing up to 1000 metric tons? With mental power or physical technology? If so, how?
- What about the underground city of Derinkuyu in Turkey? How and why was it built?
And this list is just a tiny fraction of the whole mystery. Remember that!
To prove the correct timeline of any one of these mysteries requires more than just educated guesses and vague hypotheses. To even start to solve these ancient puzzles requires more than jumping from one idea to another. It requires a deep understanding of mathematics and undeniable facts. With our new dating method, we have provided enough mathematical evidence to support our claim for a much longer timeline.
Why Ice Ages Were Latitudinal Crustal Deformations

The Mayan, Aztec, and Inca Cultures Are Much Older
The Mayan, Aztec, and Inca cultures are much older than scholars have told us. How did these cultures vanish so quickly? Scholars have never given a convincing explanation for the sudden disappearance of these advanced cultures, except for myths, opinions, and ideas.
For example: When scholars say that a civilization left a city in the 9th century AD, they are referring to the people who inhabited the city, not the people who built it. There is a big difference.
Because they aligned their monuments to an older North pole, the cultures who built them must have also suffered from destructive crustal shifts, which pushed them back into the “stone age.” It would be very hard to survive such a disaster.
It seems that these Mayan, Aztec, and Inca root cultures are much older than we thought. Based on our research, the oldest traces go back to over 700,000 years! These cultures are the origin of human civilization as we know it. The Out-of-Africa theory seems to be very wrong.
How the Ice Core Data Corresponds to the Ancient Poles

How to Interpret Glaciations
The temperatures on Earth vary depending on the latitude where you are. It is important to understand that you can look at a glacial period in two ways:
- The conventional view: During a glaciation, the geo pole stayed where it is now, so the crust did not shift or deform, but the temperature changed anyway. The mechanism behind this glaciation is still unknown. Geologists who think that the Milankovitch cycles caused the ice ages are repeating untested beliefs. We have never seen any calculations that confirm this assumption. Earth is a sphere, and will always get the same amount of solar energy, no matter how the sphere rotates towards the Sun. The climate will have fluctuations of about ±1.4°C, but these changes are due to changing Solar activity.
- Our new view: Crustal deformation causes a glaciation cycle. That is why we see that CO2 follows the temperature changes in the Antarctic ice cores. The ice core data shows that the degree of crustal shift matches the temperature change of each glaciation cycle. The close fit of the two independent patterns proves this immediately. Because the deformations of the crust affect the climate, they are inevitably recorded in the stable ice sheet of Antarctica. The only possible cause is expansion of our planet. The extent of expansion can also be traced back with our method.
The Impact of this new Dating Method
Our methodology allows us to date ancient cultures more reliably, based on the orientations of their monuments, which are related to a glaciation cycle. Each glaciation cycle represents an era. However, some structures do not align with any of the former poles. To date these structures, we need to examine the path of the pole carefully, as they may belong to periods of crustal instability. We have dated many structures, as you can see in the summary below.
Geologists claim that every ice age is a period of supposed cooling. “Supposed” because the conventional view assumes that the crust is rigid and cannot deform significantly over short geological periods. Polar ice sheets that moved to warmer regions will cool that region, and the ice sheets will melt very slowly. Melting takes thousands of years. The warmer region that moved to the pole will also become cold. The melting energy must come from the two Gulf Streams that carry the heat from the equator to the icecaps (according to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics). That is why there is a warm Gulf Stream and a North Atlantic Drift near Greenland; they are needed to restore the energy balance after a crustal shift.
Following Occam’s Razor, our new methodology offers a simple and clear explanation for glaciation, ancient history, and crustal geology – with the simplest way and the fewest assumptions.
Gathered and Analyzed Data
Topic | Amount |
Ancient Pyramids, Temples, Sites, Constructions and other monuments | 1,130+ |
Countries | 56 |
Found Orientation Clusters (Polar Nodes) | 5 |
Results of the Data Analyses – All in One Graph


Why did the North Pole Shifted in this Direction?
The North pole moved in this typical almost straight line because of the expansion of our planet. The expansion of our planet is much more recent than the traditional expansionists thought. Our planet was mostly covered with continents and was much smaller. Geologists have named this Pangaea, but then mapped it on the current diameter of our planet. We have strong evidence that our planet was initially half the size of today, and about 50% of the current gravity. This follows from the scientific observation that all the ocean floors are very young. The earth has grown significantly since then.
The big question is when this process began. We have found some answers to this major question. We can estimate the original size of the earth during each pole by measuring the shortest distance from each pole to the current geographic South pole. We can do this confidently because we know with a 99.6% certainty that the South pole did not move, or barely, while the North pole migrated.
Expansion is the Most Probable Cause
Pole | Radius Earth (km) | Age (ky) |
I | 6,371 ± 0.56% | 0 – 26 |
II | 5,930 ± 1.5% | 130 – 155 |
III | 5,740 ± 1.6% | 210 – 225 |
IV | 5,480 ± 2.7% | 240 – 270 |
V | 5,040 ± 2.8% | 330 – 345 |
VI* | 4,650 ± 5.0% | 410 – 440 |
With our innovative method, we discovered a surprising connection between ice ages and expansion cycles. By using the megalithic structures of our ancient ancestors, which were aligned to different North pole positions, we can reliably estimate how much smaller our planet was in the past.
This discovery opens up a whole new world of questions. Questions like, what made the earth expand? How can we explain the discrepancy between our findings and the traditional expansionists’ claims? How did the oceans form as the earth grew in size? What kind of force or energy was behind the earth’s expansion? Is this why dinosaurs were able to grow so big in a lower gravity environment, and is this why they became extinct as gravity increased? We have found many answers to these urgent and fascinating questions, which will challenge and enlighten you in my upcoming book.
Five Geographic Poles: Mathematically Proven

The Time Frame & Shortlist of Ancient Structures
Pole | Pyramids, Sites, Temples |
I: 0 – 26,000 years ago | Borobudur, Konark Sun Temple, Temple of Horus, Pyramids of Giza, Tomb of Emperor Ping of Han |
26,000 – 130,000 | Period of crustal deformation: Pole II to Pole I |
II: 130,000 – 155,000 years ago | Babylon, Prasat Phum Prasat, Uxmal (Pyramid of the magician), El Mirador, Ka’ba-ye Zartosht |
155,000 – 210,000 | Period of crustal deformation: Pole III to Pole II |
III: 210,000 – 225,000 years ago | Teotihuacan, Pompeii (temples), Carnac, Edzna, Tomb of Emperor Zhao of Han, Antipatris |
225,000 – 240,000 | Period of crustal deformation: Pole IV to Pole III |
IV: 240,000 – 270,000 years ago | Yagul, Kuara (Sumer), Great Kyz Kala, El Castillo (Chichen Itza), Pyramid of Koh-Ker |
270,000 – 330,000 | Period of crustal deformation: Pole V to Pole IV |
V: 330,000 – 345,000 years ago | Tomb of Three Kings of Zhou, Der (Sumer), Nohoch Mul pyramid (Cobá), Caral, Madinet Habu temple, Borsippa (Sumer) |
345,000 – 410,000 | Period of crustal deformation: Pole VI to Pole V |
VI: 410,000 – 440,000 years ago | Nineveh (Sumer), Sippar (Sumer), Eridu (Sumer), Pyramids of Cochasqui (No. 5, 9, 14), Huaca del Sol, Zabala (Sumer), Caral |
Why Ice Ages Were Crustal Deformations

About the Average Temperature Gradient
As shown in Fig 15, the average temperature gradient of 0.576°C per degree latitude is calculated based on the surface area corresponding to each temperature. For example, the poles have very low temperatures, but their surface areas are much smaller than that of the equator. Therefore, the poles have a negligible effect on the ΔT, which is the difference in temperature per 1 degree latitude.
We use these temperature gradients in our research because they are similar to the method used in the temperature reconstructions from the ice cores. We transform the data from the ice cores and recalculate them into a latitudinal deformation of the crust.
By subtracting the natural temperature variations of 2.8°C from the most significant peaks and valleys in the ice age graphs, we obtain the remaining crustal deformations of the last major events. These deformations match the temperature gradients between two consecutive poles in all cases. The probability of such a match occurring by chance in such a complex set of patterns is 1 in 750,000. We are confident that we have found the correct time frame.
The Crust is More Dynamic Than Often Believed
We have analyzed a large amount of data to determine and verify the location of the former North poles and to evaluate the validity of this new theory.
It is important to understand that Antarctica remained almost stationary at the South pole, while Greenland moved across the North pole. This is consistent with the evidence we have from the isochrons on the ocean floor. The isochrons show that the Pacific plate was stretched due to major expansion cycles. The stretching occurred in both longitudinal and latitudinal directions. This explains why there is no continent in the Pacific. Australia was separated from Antarctica. Zealandia was submerged in the massive stretching process.
A similar process occurred in the Atlantic, but here expansion was mainly in the longitudinal direction. This uneven expansion pushed Greenland over the North pole. In this complex mix of movements, our anchor points are the orientations of ancient megalithic structures of various shapes, sizes, and orientations around the world.
The Earth is more dynamic than we ever imagined. My book (in progress) covers this topic extensively because it is essential but difficult to comprehend.
Our Data Hints as to how Expansion Mechanics Might Work
The orientation of the foundations of ancient buildings, mainly because we processed them in large numbers, gave us profound insights into ancient times. Not only of in what kind of world our ancient ancestors were living, also in the behavior of the earth’s crust. They are both intimately connected.
Ice age graphs correspond to the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit over the last 800,000 years. The chance for these two graphs to correspond to each other coincidentally is 0.00069% or 1 to 145,000. It shows that we must look at eccentricity for the root cause of ice ages, and so also for the root cause of expansion. It is weird to notice that geology consequently overlooked this. However, expansion seems to have more causes than eccentricity alone, solar activity is also involved.
Changes in eccentricity brings another orbit of the earth. It brings all sorts of motion mechanics that might stimulate expansion. There is still a lot to sort out how this expansion mechanics might work.
The Moving Crust Turns Everything Upside Down
The crust in the region of Greenland underwent severe deformation, while Antarctica remained relatively stable at its current position. Greenland moved across the geographic North pole in two shifts between 330,000 and 110,000 years ago, resulting in three former geo pole locations. To illustrate: This is like having three fence posts with two gaps between them. The Greenland ice sheet formed during this era, and that is why it has a thick layer of ice that is melting now.
Earth crust shifts are not sudden events. They are slow, unstoppable processes that last for long periods. The fastest crustal shifts occurred over about 15,000 years, and the slowest ones over about 100,000 years. However, it is a time of constant turmoil, with megaquakes, sloshing oceans, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and a changing climate due to the shifting latitude and sliding crusts. And of course, increasing gravity.
Sea levels have fluctuated repeatedly over many tens of thousands of years and will change again depending on the location of the new geographic poles. The presence or absence of a geographic pole in the ocean or on land affects the formation of ice sheets.
An Earth crust shift is not the spectacular event that many people imagine it to be. It is a massive, slow, environmentally disruptive, powerful deformation process of the crust that forced many ancient peoples to migrate to safer places. It also caused massive extinctions of the human population that we now call “lost civilizations”. It also accounts for many of the stories of giants in the ancient past.
The Probability that These Facts are True
The chance that the temperature variations during the last ice ages coincided with our identified mathematical hot spots by accident is about 1 in 750,000. This suggests that the following facts are true:
- The geographic North pole moved in the latitudinal direction, while parts of the crust were severely deformed. Many traditions around the world narrate these events as floods and global disasters.
- Antarctica stayed (almost) fixed at its current position. The movement of the geographic North pole leaves proxy traces in the ice sheets of a relative stable and constant South pole. Both pole regions are equally sensitive to changes. That is why the motion of the agile North pole is precisely recorded in the ice layers of the South pole.
- The shifts of the North pole correspond to “ice ages” in the exact sequence and magnitude as they are registered in the ice sheet of Antarctica.
- Ancient structures are aligned to these former geo North poles. The age of the ancient structures is usually as old as the pole.
- A high eccentric orbit around the Sun causes crustal deformation in combination with expansion due to solar activity.
- Greenland’s ice sheet was formed by being repeatedly located at different successive North pole positions, and that its massive ice sheet will eventually melt because it has moved to a place of ‘moderate’ temperatures.
- CO2 lags behind temperature changes and is therefore not the (primary) cause of temperature changes.
Antiquity Reborn – A Scientific Challenge
We believe that our new mathematical hypothesis of crustal displacement will eventually change the scientific perspective on our history. It will take a long time to convince the scientific community of this new paradigm of what happened with the Earth’s crust. This paradigm shift might have a significant impact on the current climate models once the method is validated and accepted by the mainstream community as real and valid.
Of course, it will probably take a long time for this theory to mature. We are working hard to develop our theory, and we are making fast progress. Many knowledgeable scientists are surprised and amazed by our new dating theory – the genie is out of the bottle.
One example of the many profound implications this theory has: how likely is it that paleomagnetism, which is a highly technical and well-funded discipline, develops a correct and valid theory anytime soon? Not very likely – but why is that? Because mainstream Geology stubbornly ignores and dismisses the possibility of a slow latitudinal crawling crust during high eccentric orbits of the Earth around the Sun. But geology also ignores the fact that the Earth has expanded in the past, which is the main cause of the geographic North pole to migrate.
Crustal movements would also leave traces in the magnetizable sediments, and in fact, destroy the patterns that geologists hoped to obtain. That is why this discipline has never come to one overall acceptable view of the movements of the magnetic pole. There is no way to recognize from the samples alone what has moved: the core, the crust or both. Because of the magnetic core moves, it is therefore not the only variable that left traces.
Antiquity Reborn – My Upcoming Book
Currently I am working on a book with the provisional title “Antiquity Reborn” that will challenge many widely accepted paradigms and replace them with new insights, by using mathematics in a way that most people will understand and accept as valid. The book will first be published in Dutch and then translated into other languages. The Dutch version is expected to be released in 2024.
Our book will not only provide the necessary evidence to show what happened in the distant past, but also offer a framework to develop a new perspective on lost civilizations and their fate. It will also help us understand who we are and where we come from. It will solve many mysteries and unite many scientific disciplines, while also opening up new avenues for further inquiry.
Thank you for your time, I welcome your comments and questions!
© 2015 – by Mario Buildreps et al.
https://mariobuildreps.com
Proofreading and editing: J.B.
Contact: buildreps@gmail.com
Disclaimer: The database is the product of the research conducted by Mario Buildreps and his collaborators. The data has been peer-reviewed by a PhD expert in mathematics and physics of a reputable scientific institute who wishes to remain anonymous. The findings of dense nodal formations based on the orientations of ancient monuments over Greenland have been independently verified and confirmed. The conclusions are derived and supported by probabilistic data analysis, other conclusions than the ones I have drawn based on the data are unlikely, despite the many alternative suggestions that I have received from readers and critics. Some critics have complained that the data is not publicly accessible, but this is justified by the enormous amount of work, time, and resources that I have personally invested in this project. My conclusions are based on the data and the correlations among the data, not on beliefs. I have calculated the probabilities using established methods and statistical techniques, and I have confirmed them with numerical simulations based on the database and other sources. My conclusions may differ from the existing sources, and they might oppose the establishment, but I have based my conclusions on factual data.
References, Sources and some Recommendations:
- Earth’s Shifting Crust: A Key to Some Basic Problems of Earth Science (1958). This is Charles Hapgood’s first book that introduced his theory of crustal displacement and how it could explain some geological and climatic phenomena. It included a foreword by Albert Einstein, who supported his idea.
- The Earth’s Shifting Crust: A Key to Some Basic Problems of Earth Science (1970). This is a revised and updated edition of his previous book, with new data and evidence. It also included a new chapter on the possible effects of crustal displacement on human history and civilization.
- Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings: Evidence of Advanced Civilization in the Ice Age (1966). Hapgood explored the possibility that some ancient maps, such as the Piri Reis map, contained accurate information about the geography and coastlines of the world before the last ice age. He argued that these maps were based on older sources that originated from a lost civilization that had advanced knowledge of cartography and navigation.
- The Path of the Pole (1970). This is Charles Hapgood’s third book that expanded on his theory of crustal displacement and how it could account for some of the mysteries and anomalies of ancient history and archaeology. He also discussed some possible scenarios and implications for the future of the Earth and humanity.
- Mystery in Acambaro (1972). Charles Hapgood’s fourth book that investigated the controversial discovery of thousands of ceramic figurines in Acambaro, Mexico, that depicted dinosaurs and other extinct animals. He suggested that these figurines were evidence of a prehistoric contact between humans and dinosaurs, and that they supported his theory of crustal displacement.
- True Polar Wander: An Analysis of Cenozoic and Mesozoic Paleomagnetic Poles by Gordon and Cox (1980) published in Journal of Geophysical Research: Solid Earth. This is a journal article that analyzes the paleomagnetic data from Cenozoic and Mesozoic rocks to determine the amount and direction of true polar wander, which is the movement of Earth’s geographic poles relative to its surface. The article finds that true polar wander has occurred at an average rate of about 0.5 degrees per million years over the past 200 million years, and that it has been mostly along two axes: one perpendicular and one parallel to the ecliptic plane. The article also discusses some of the possible causes and consequences of true polar wander, such as changes in Earth’s moment of inertia, mantle convection, plate tectonics, climate, etc.
- Were the Ice Ages really just True Polar Wandering Events? https://utahgeology.com/were-the-ice-ages-really-just-true-polar-wandering-events/ The paper by Lance Weaver proposes a novel hypothesis that the ice ages were caused by true polar wander (TPW), a phenomenon where the Earth’s rotation axis shifts relative to its surface due to changes in the mass distribution of the planet1. The author claims that TPW can explain the observed patterns of glaciation and deglaciation during the Pleistocene epoch, as well as the apparent migration of the North Pole over time. The paper presents a 3D interactive map tool that visualizes the extent and location of the ice sheets and the pole position at different time intervals.
- The Orientation of Roman Towns in Italy by Magli (2008) published in Nexus Network Journal. This is a journal article that investigates the orientation of Roman towns in Italy using a geographic information system (GIS) and a statistical analysis. The article finds that Roman towns were not oriented randomly, but rather according to astronomical criteria, such as solstices, equinoxes, sunrise or sunset directions, etc. The article also finds that Roman towns were oriented differently depending on their location and historical period, reflecting different cultural influences and traditions. The article suggests that Roman town planning was based on a cosmological vision that connected the urban space with the celestial sphere.
- The Orientation of Prehistoric Monuments in Britain by Ruggles (1999) published in Journal for the History of Astronomy. This is a journal article that reviews the evidence and arguments for the orientation of prehistoric monuments in Britain, such as stone circles, henges, passage graves, etc. The article finds that prehistoric monuments were not oriented randomly, but rather according to astronomical criteria, such as solstices, lunar standstills, star risings or settings, etc. The article also finds that prehistoric monuments were oriented differently depending on their type and function, reflecting different social and religious practices and beliefs. The article suggests that prehistoric astronomy was not a separate or isolated activity, but rather an integral part of prehistoric culture and worldview.
- The Orientation of Mayan Ceremonial Centers by Aveni et al. (2003) published in Ancient Mesoamerica. This is a journal article that examines the orientation of Mayan ceremonial centers in Guatemala using a GIS and a statistical analysis. The article finds that Mayan ceremonial centers were not oriented randomly, but rather according to astronomical criteria, such as solstices, equinoxes, zenith passages, eclipses, etc. The article also finds that Mayan ceremonial centers were oriented differently depending on their location and historical period, reflecting different political and religious influences and alliances. The article suggests that Mayan astronomy was not only a scientific or calendrical activity, but also a symbolic and ritual activity that expressed the Mayan cosmology and ideology.
- Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth’s Lost Civilization by Graham Hancock. This is a book published by Crown Publishers in 1995. It explores the possibility that an advanced civilization existed before the end of the last ice age and that its traces can be found in various ancient sites around the world. It also discusses the theory of crustal displacement proposed by Charles Hapgood as a possible cause for the shifts in orientation.
- Voices of the Rocks: A Scientist Looks at Catastrophes and Ancient Civilizations by Robert Schoch. This is a book published by Harmony Books in 1992. It argues that some ancient structures, such as the Sphinx and the pyramids of Egypt, are much older than traditionally dated and that they were built by a prehistoric civilization that was wiped out by a global cataclysm. It also presents evidence from geology, astronomy, and archaeology to support this hypothesis.
- The Orion Mystery: Unlocking the Secrets of the Pyramids by Robert Bauval and Adrian Gilbert. This is a book published by Heinemann in 1994. It proposes that the three main pyramids of Giza are aligned with the three stars of Orion’s belt and that this alignment reflects a connection between ancient Egyptian religion and astronomy. It also suggests that this alignment was deliberately chosen to mark a specific date in prehistory when Orion was at its lowest point on the meridian.
- Pyramid Quest: Secrets of the Great Pyramid and the Dawn of Civilization by Robert Schoch and Robert Aquinas McNally. This is a book published by Jeremy P. Tarcher/Penguin in 2005. It revisits Schoch’s theory of an older date for the Sphinx and examines new evidence and arguments for his claim. It also explores other aspects of ancient Egyptian culture and history, such as religion, mythology, art, science, and technology, and their possible connections to other ancient civilizations around the world.
- The Secret Chamber Revisited: The Quest for The Lost Knowledge Of Ancient Egypt by Robert Bauval. This is a book published by Inner Traditions/Bear & Company in 2014. It follows up on Bauval’s previous research on the Orion correlation theory and investigates new discoveries and controversies regarding hidden chambers and tunnels inside or under some of the pyramids of Giza. It also delves into some esoteric and mystical aspects of ancient Egyptian wisdom and spirituality, such as alchemy, astrology, numerology, sacred geometry, and initiation rites.
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Hello! I’ve been trying to locate a doc that I saw almost 30 years ago on TVO (TV Ontario)… in Canada. It was made by the BBC. It talked about Atlantis and the moving of the Earth’s crust and ice ages. It had ancient maps… interviews with Einstein and lots of interesting things. I’ve been trying to put these pieces together again and I’ve had some rather interesting chats about the old maps, etc. and so far, these conversations are leading me to wonder if the doc was off basis and there is little truth in it. There is, however, one piece of evidence that I’ve not been able to ‘refind’ and this piece is so strong a statement, that all other aspects DO seem to fall into place. In the doc, an ancient monolithic temple was shown and (using computers) it was shown how it’s basically a sun dial. The doc went on to show how this sundial works perfectly… except that it’s around 3000 miles away from the place on the Earth where it would work perfectly. So… although other ‘facts’ can be argued and opinions made… this temple is (in my mind) absolute proof that crust movement is possible and has happened! BUT… I can’t find any info about this ancient temple anywhere! Does this make sense? Does this temple exist? If so… why is this subject not discussed more openly?
Sounds interesting Jim! I have no idea what doc you are talking about, but it sounds like the shifting crust of Hapgood. That theory is the precursor of my theory.
Interesting! did you publish the code from your study somewhere?
Your work is fascinating!
I noticed that there are two marked places in the video: Heraclea and Ohrid.
I am form Heraclea(today`s name is Bitola but the old buildings are inside the town) and the next town to me is Ohrid, 70km away.
Can you please tell more about why this ancient sites are included?
If you need anything about these two sites, I will be happy to contribute to the project.
Hi Aleksander, not all ancient sites are included in the animation, that is almost impossible to do. There are over 30 ancient Greek cities in the database, of which the majority of them is not pointing to an ancient pole. That might have been caused by local deformations of the crust that were greater than on average around the world, causing ancient foundations in Greece to be overly NOT pointing to an ancient pole.
I don’t see any published studies indicating the axis of ancient structures. While your words make sense and present a big picture, any statements with foundational evidence is suspect.
https://www.mariobuildreps.com/orientation-latin-american-pyramids-temples/
How do you know that these structures are aligned with the north pole and not something like sunrise on the equinox or the rise of Sirius? Did you test for other alignments?
Why would someone align to Sirius when you need instruments to measure time and day of year? These sorts of ideas come from archaeologists who have no idea what to make of all these odd orientations all over the world. Yes, we have extensively tested for such alignments, like alignments for solstices or star systems. There are coincidental matches which are expected when so many structures are in a database, but none of them is significant.
I’m fascinated and captivated by finding your work. Are you still working on it? Did you write the book?
Hi Zachary, I’m working very hard and silently on my book.
Great!. I haven’t yet become a patron but one question I still have unanswered after watching all you videos and reading a few pages is how the orientation was initially found at each site to align to the respective pole of their time? Even if the stonework wasn’t a solar observatory in some cases what process did all the world follow to pinpoint the geopole?
Processing orientation of ancient structures has to follow an abstract path. It starts with a strict definition of what orientation is, then followed by measuring, processing the data, leading to an overall average orientation which leads to one specific point on earth. This point is on Greenland. Not all ancient structures were not oriented to an ancient pole, but the majority was (about 63%). Let me know if there are still unanswered questions for you.
Not sure if you answered this on another page. Did you check the various nodes or alignments against possible alignments with lunar phenomena, Sirius, Venus, solstices, or other astral phenomena that may have been important to ancient peoples? For instance, the various “temples” at Gobekli Tepe seem to be built to align with Sirius.
All the ideas of alignments to Sirius, Venus, or solstices appear to be not true. There is no massive alignment to some star, because the orientations differ too much for that. Most people who say that are only looking at one structure. If you take ALL structures into account you’ll find a whole other pattern.
In your analysis, did you rule out other possible alignments for each site such as an alignment with the sun on the solstice, the rising of Sirius or Pleiades, etc?
Yes, that is verified. There are just a few orientations to the solstices, see fig 7. and 8. The yellow dots represent the solstices at that specific latitude. Regarding alleged orientations to star systems, also there is no specific pattern found. The orientation/latitudes do not show significant matches other than coincidental matches. Regarding the largeness of the database there will be always coincidental overlaps. The notion that the alleged primitive superstitious ancient people must have oriented their structures to start systems still stems from the mid twentieth century studies.
Mario, thank you for your interests, academic knowledge, heartfelt compassion and dedication to your core beliefs on this topic. I understand you to be one of my tutors in this age. We live in a time where it is incredible such teaching or thinking is free, but it is also dangerous in the wrong mind. I am truly grateful that you have invested your most valuable resource, time, into developing your website (one day that would be good for me to try also). I look forward to supporting you through the purchase of your book, regardless of the price, and understanding better so I can share my gifts in my own forthcoming book. Like many of my past teachers, my current tutors, and my eternal friends and family I have lived with, this topic has been of growing importance to me in recent decades for personal reasons, and for my tribe. Like you, I have learned things, or understood concepts that are not within the “accepted” story or narrative of history and material life in this time. I am not looking for the support of current academia, as taught by and contributed to by the vast legions of governmental institutions, academics, scientists, religious teachers, and prophets that have all come forth to be recognized and give their interpretations of what they understand to be truth. But I do rightly heed the warnings of some and share the blessings with others. Truth or story, myth or reality, some will die believing fables or a lie. And not all from a malevolent spirit or of an ignorant mind. It is just what they “believe”. Call it cognitive dissonance possibly. But we shall not all sleep, but we will be changed. There may be better ways to live and interpret life on this planet, I see that you understand and are trying to bring that about, for that I am with you. But there are some in divine appointed positions within the governmental rule and leadership today, behind that of the flesh, as credentialed by man, that have corrupted their ways and the ways of the people, and that brings about consequences for all of mankind, including myself. And they think they can bend the fabric of reality and enslave others of God creation and in His Kingdom. Hence the changing of the times and seasons, and my taking up the breastplate of righteousness, the shield of faith, with my feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace, the belt of truth, the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
There is a beautiful, simple and tragic truth that is there for all to see, but many just don’t see it, or don’t want to see it. Myself being one of only partial understanding. But there are hills upon which I will die, and one of those I have fallen on in history.
Because I was wrong.
So some of my knowledge may be off due to incomplete or incorrect information or misunderstanding from me, so please don’t think i represent any of them, but I try.
Some of which include: Jesus Christ, Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstein, Emmanuel Velikovsky, Carl Jung, James McCanney, Robert Schoch, Jordan Peterson and Randall Carlson.
I have a few things I hope you could speak to about this topic to help guide me so I do not get lost down a rabbit hole of fantasy.
It may not come out as a list of questions, but hopefully the intent of my inquiry will present itself.
I understand that the current magnetic poles have been picking up speed in distance traveled per year since we were able to track them, both poles. That the changing of these magnetic markers for our planet is causing changes in our field strength of the earth which contributes to or causes a decreasing in the field strength of the magnetosphere, with all the changes that brings, not least of which is changing weather patterns.
I see the earth spinning in all it’s directions, with our magnetosphere protecting us from certain wavelengths of light and solar energies we may not yet understand. These wavelengths from the sun being divided by our magnetosphere, protecting us, directing the solar wind to the North and South poles, then to ground. To give us the earths vertical electric field, which gives us our weather. We are looking out at the stars, which are intended to be markers of the seasons and the times in which we live. But there are deceptions about, or a lie. A psychological straitjacket that has enslaved the souls of many and drawn the hearts of many to death.
An intentional misleading of the general population into the true nature of our planet. Our solar system. Our universe. Our beginning. To that, I hope to contribute to making a better world.
“We are Giants put on this earth to rid it of it’s evil”, of which I am one of these Giants in the Spirit, and there are 4 Horseman that are behind me from my past, that I hope not to encounter again. Or, so may YHWH use me to re-create what His original intention was for His human family on earth and proclaim: ‘Go out, subdue the earth and replenish it’.
What I wonder is, because I understand our solar system to have a differing polarity split by the ecliptic of the planets, up and down, positive and negative, north and south, with a return current sheet, I assume the galaxy has the same differing polarities.
Could our solar system be experiencing changes because we our traversing the galactic ecliptic of the Milky Way, and possibly even a scale beyond that? And is this changing or moving of the magnetic poles and relocation of the axis of the earth cause the land mass to reorient once the fields regain their full strength?
“Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds”
Albert Einstein
If this is a slow, gradual process how can it result in mass extinctions of homo sapiens? The slow gradual process would allow for homo sapiens to adapt or relocate?
Homo sapiens may not have the bandwidth within their captured minds to navigate to a climate more conducive to growth, during this age, or any of the ages that have preceded our time on earth. So they become extinct, both in their bodies and in their minds. It is the Spirit that gives life. Probably not a mass extinction, but a separating of the wheat from the chaff. The eternal Kingdom has many things that cannot be explained yet, but I believe there will come a time where understanding may become easier. God works all things together for good, for His good and our good. In this life we will experience suffering, but do not despair because Jesus Christ has overcome the world. And I live like it. Because, in the twinkling of an eye, everything will change. And sometimes, it is not what we were planning. I know, it happened to me once. And I wasn’t prepared. The “world” wants you to think you can prepare, but we cannot. Ask Jesus Christ to show you into this Kingdom of which I speak, He knows those who are His, and everyone is invited to the wedding banquet.
My interest is in the origin of latitude and longitude that is an angular system designed on the spin of the earth against a grid on the background of the stars on a sphere independent of radius.
Not a grid on the earth.
The creation of a recent half fathom (yard) by King Edward the 1st after 1272 was pointed out by a scientist afterwards to make the Nautical Mile(minute of latitude 6068 feet.
Consideration was given to a 1000 fathom (6000 feet) as the ancient origin of latitude and longitude.
This would make 360° 60′ 60″ a ratio to divide the earth at sea level for a standard minute of latitude a Nautical Mile (radian) of 1000 standard fathoms.
This is confirmed by the fact that a 6000 ft arc second 100 feet and a “ten”th of a second 10 feet and a hundredth of a second one foot.
This simplicity can not be an accident.
365 days for a year does not give the correct ratio.
This possibility of future observation accuracy can be seen as future proofing astronomical observation for angular position against better observation methods.
The accuracy of angular position/distance by GPS is presently quoted as 5 metres or 16 feet.
Latitude and longitude still works for navigation to adequate accuracy with a 6000 foot NM when you realise no road is straight between to widely separated points, boats are diverted by currents winds and storms, and planes have to handle cross winds, storms, flight lanes and holding patterns.
There are dozens of ancient measurements based on this ancient fathom.
Another simple angular method that can be used independant of distance is bearing intersection triangles to create scale maps.
The existence of highly accurate Portolan style Charts from around 1290 was a shock to accedemia.
The method used to make this type was in open sight in the title of the chart though you have to have used this system to recognise it.
Bearings Between Ports of the Mediteranean Sea.
The Compas Rose on these maps was provided the triangulation intersection lines to a destination starting from two points as a base line.
Also allowing course bearings to be read off, as well as new points and highly accuate Coastsal points to be drawn in.
Any scale can be chosen to display with these maps either before they are drawn or after.
Copied pieces of extremely ancient maps made using this method have been found around the world.
This method was used since then up to World War 2 to draw all world maps.
These two methods of Mapping and Latitude and Longitude that do not require measured distances, only angles ideally suit your analysis
Highly interesting and convincing work. Inconclusive about: 1) How is it possible the palm tree together with 1000’s of southern climate animals got frozen under Siberia while standing up on 4 legs. It must have happened sudden. 2) How was Antarctica ice free for the Piri map? The plate must have been elsewhere, not around the spinning axis. 3) Were is Atlantis?
Not all mysteries can be explained by only one theory or mechanism. The proposed mechanism of crustal deformation is the big thing and can be accompanied by a battery of smaller things like CMEs and small comet impacts. It is possible that powerful solar flares that hit earth cause first heating and then even more violent cooling. The cooling effect can be caused by the formation of nitric oxide. The cooling can go below 930 Fahrenheit. That event might be a cause of flash freezing of animals and plant life. This article explains more https://www.colorado.edu/today/2016/12/14/researchers-dial-thermostat-earths-upper-atmosphere
aloha!
i was curious since you actually are paying attention to the fact were basically on a giant spinning ball orbiting the sun and it oscilates its rotation over time. to help make the model more accurate as to why shifts may occur has anyone thought about the density and mass of the earth as it wanes and waxes out of these warmer and dryer periods? during warmer periods it would make sense that more water density would be located near the equator (land formations being taken into account as well) and that would slow or shift the rotation. vice versa as that weight exchanges shifts the crust of the earth slightly faster or however the planet would spin marginally faster as more ice forms on the ends. just a thought.
also curious how far back you think things may have gone? 400k years still seams limited. people still just came up with pyramid construction 400k years ago?
Check out https://archive.org/details/b22024554
The mythological astronomy, in three parts
by Mackey, Sampson Arnold. Publication date 1827
Hi Mario!
In Fig. 1, there is an animation of how the North Pole has moved between Pole V and the present. How many km are there between these two points?
It would be worth doing the same animation for the South Pole. It would be interesting to see how much of Antarctica was ice-free during these periods and to make a correlation with sea level as well.
Hi Jan! The distance between pole V and Pole I via the Pole IV, III and II, is expressed in degrees. The crust did not turn over in its entirety, like Hapgood suggested. The crust appears to be deformed. Antarctica did not move very much over the time frame that the North Pole was displaced. Also, Antarctica was not ice free at this time. We have compelling evidence that the crust was deformed due to expansion of the earth. Expansion did probably not take the tens of millions of years like expansionists, such as James Maxlow, suggest. The data used by expansionists is solely paleomagnetic, and exactly this data cannot be used in an expanding earth. To explain why this is so, takes a whole lecture.
Hola Mario
Extraordinario trabajo cambia totalmente la manera de ver las cosas. Con respecto a las pirámides te dejo una inquietud,, en Google Earth figura en las coordenadas 79°58’41.12″S 81°57’45.28″W una aparente pirámide. Con la reciente aparicion de REMA ( https://www.pgc.umn.edu/data/rema ) es el Modelo de Elevación de referencia de la Antártida, un Modelo de superficie digital (DSM) de la Antártida con fecha y hora de alta resolución a una resolución espacial de 8 metros. Con las mismas coordenadas de Google Earth buscando en el Antartic Explorer Explorer ( https://livingatlas2.arcgis.com/antarcticdemexplorer/ ) se aprecia perfectamente la piramide, medidas aproximadas 400 metros de lado y 160 metros de alto.
Verificando la orientación se podrá saber a que periodo de nuestra historia pertenece?? , desde ya muchas gracias
Hi Carlos, can you leave your comment in English please?
If Antarctica did not move, why are the Southern hemisphere alignments not consistent with the current South Pole?
Mario I love your work and have been following your research. With the recent volcano eruptions in Tonga in the Pacific, my attention came to the The Megalithic Gate of Ha-amonga a Maui. It is Clockwise oriented and could be positioned to Pole II? Just wondering if this place has been studied by you and your team. Keep up the Great Work, you are an inspiration!!!!!!
Hi Nicholas, thank you for your comment. The megalithic gate on Tonga appears to be oriented to Pole V, and so it might be very old indeed. The way this construction is made makes it very solid and it could surely survive hundreds of thousands of years without much problems. Also, if we look at the amount of erosion, this does not happen in just a few thousand years.
Thanks for this amazing work!
One question: for the buildings not oriented towards a Pole but “inbetween” as Pole 1 to 2, Pole 2 to 3, etc…, is there a possibility to find some proximity with building “pole-oriented”?
During the periods between stable poles, there should be some survivors building where they can live. Could we follow a kind of geographic migration of these people? (e.g: a site A is oriented to pole 2. Is there a site B at proximity (in the 100 miles range maybe) oriented toward the inbetween pole 1 to 2? And is there a site C in the same range oriented to pole 1?)
Many thanks
Little less than 38% of the ancient structures are not oriented to ancient poles and indeed in between oriented. The reasons for this can be manifold. The crust was deformed and some parts were more deformed than others, and so these heavily deformed parts could have caused in between orientation. The patterns clearly show that construction activities dropped almost to zero during these long lasting cataclysmic periods. They probably renovated what was left as shelter and so orientation remained intact. There is a distinct migration pattern to discover in the Americas, they followed the path of the pole, due to changing climatic zones. The migration speeds so to speak, were on average 10 kilometers per millennium, and that is in a human lifetime incredibly slow, however, over the course of Homo sapiens’ existence it’s clearly a big thing for our specie.
I understand your specific question and we will certainly look into this as well.
Thank you. Mario.
So grateful for your incredible responsiveness and your explanations!
You’re right, people could have renovated what was left, keeping the existing orientation, except when the climiatic conditions had changed too drasticly.
Wish you the best for your first book!
After seeing this video, my whole outlook of the Pyramids of Giza changed… I highly recommend it if you haven’t already… https://youtu.be/oTLKkeCbr_c
Hi Travis, I haven’t seen it yet and will take a look. Thank you for drawing my attention to this video.
Great Theory, quite plausible. Was going through pics of some of the sites in your shortlist that I wasn’t too familiar with and got blown away by the ‘huaca del Sol’ in Peru. To me its undoubtly a gigantic & decapitated Anubis/Sphinx the ‘dog-star’/Sirius guardian. Is that site also around the 30th parallel as is Giza? Some arcane history I’ve read claimed that we directly descended from human-forms that began migrating to this system far back as 22 million yrs.ago so in that light one would expect to find at least a few still existing structures dating to hundreds of thousands or even millions. Fine Work!
Do you have any data on the Mississippian culture in North America?
No we have no data of that region.
Outsranding research and critical thinking.
Hello Mario,
I can’t wait for your book to come out, this is the most fascinating information I have ever read in regards to ancient sites, I hope that those in the archaeological field realize that many structures around the world are far older than we ever could have imagined.
I also looked at your information regarding Teotihuacan, I never knew it was buried beneath 12 feet of dirt, or that it took 75 years to excavate the entire site. The history books and archaeologists always leave very important details like that out because they can’t explain it. When I looked at before and after pictures, well, my jaw dropped to the floor, I couldn’t register what I was seeing.
It doesn’t make any sense and it defies all logic.
That simply isn’t possible, if it was abandoned as archaeologists have stated, somewhere around 400- 500 AD, it wouldn’t be buried beneath 12 feet of dirt. No one has to be an expert at any field to know that nature doesn’t work that quickly, and if nature did work that quickly, just about every megalithic site in the world would have been covered in the same manner.
Do archaeologists have any explanation or answers for why it was buried beneath 12 feet of dirt? I tried looking, but I couldn’t find anything about this issue, and have you had the chance to discuss this with any in the archaeological field? I imagine they do everything they can to avoid talking about such topics, but dismissing 12 feet of dirt seems beyond the pale.
Thank you so much for putting all of this work in, and bringing it to light.
Math truly can reveal and explain more about our incredible world and universe more than anything else.
Thank you for your comment, Jonathan. There is very little explained by archaeologists simply because they don’t know. Archaeology is becoming a real science, only very slowly with the introduction with advanced, mathematical based theories and techniques. There are many ideas out there as to why Teotihuacan is so oddly oriented, however, none of them really makes sense. 95% of all ancient structures on the Western hemisphere are clockwise oriented and no one has ever found a credible explanation for that strange phenomenon before we did.
Hi Mario, very interesting research, You seem to have invested many years and time on the subject, well done.
I want to recomend to you on research done by Douglas Vogt from Diehold foundation, he has an interesting theory on the subject…
Hi Pavel, thank you for your comment. Yes, I know about the research of Doug Vogt. Doug and me do not agree on many of the details, however, we agree on the massive scale of subsequent catastrophes. Doug is very wrong on some topics, but he denies seeing it. He refuses to see the sequence of cause and effect, and comes to exceptional irrational conclusions.
One of the most eye-catching misconceptions of Doug Vogt is that he believes that the Earth will reverse in rotation due to changes of the magnetic field. But he fails to see that the magnetic field variations are the result of changes in Earth’s rotation speed. And these rotational changes are the result of eccentricity of Earth’s orbit around the Sun. These are one of the groundbreaking discoveries that we have made.
They do not know why we rotate or even what our core is made of. Either the magnetic field causes our rotation or the rotation happens magically with no help and a magnetic field is produced from it. The former I believe is correct. I think the deep sea canyons Vogt shows, says something profound, either crustal displacement and no reverse of rotation or both. Patrick Geryl says both, Davidson says 90 degrees world turns over but no reversal. Others are mix of both. But I think one of the kickers is when you reverse the polarity on an electric motor it reverses it’s rotation… So Vogt is saying same thing, bigger scale. The ancient legends also speak of the sun standing still and east being west afterward.. So, controversial topic for sure and the 2040’s isn’t far off. What do you think of the 6 blank periods in space he shows?
Hi Rich, there’s rotation first. All celestial objects rotate, simply because nothing is static in space, but not all rotating objects develop a magnetic field. There’s obviously no magnetic field necessary to make the earth rotate. Variations in rotations seem to be the cause of the variations in magnetic field strength. The major cause of rotational variability is eccentricity of orbit. I do not only disagree with Doug, no, Doug hasn’t nailed it down correctly.
I have seen Doug’s presentations, and in one of them he shows two graphs; a graph of Earth’s rotation speed and a graph of the magnetic field strength. Doug says that the field strength makes the fluctuations in rotation speed. But what he failed to see is that in ALL cases, on the X-axis which is time, the rotation speed changes first, and only then the magnetic field changes. The first phenomenon on the timescale is the cause, the second phenomenon on the timescale is the effect. Doug has failed to incorporate this in his theory, and that is why he fails in its further implementations.
Thanks for responding. I also do not think he is right in everythin and he is very arrogant dude, for me his reserch is another piece to the puzzle. A few years ago I saw a lecture by a russian researcher named valery uvarov and he suggested that the axis of rotation changed following an asteroid impact. He also gave examples of the orientation of ancient structures to the geographic Pole. but he talked about only one known chnange of the pole location… Since, I’ve been researching the subject, I’m not a scientist im I am a civil engineer, but I do my best to connect the dots. Very respectful of your work, waiting for the book to relise …
Fascinating. Can you name some well-known ancient structures/buildings which are not aligned to cardinal points – which don’t fit the hypothesis? I’m speculating whether, the further back one goes, the more buildings were aligned to cardinal points – but maybe you can tell me that.
Yes, there are enough ancient structures that are not oriented to one of these ancient poles. However, there are more that are oriented to the ancient poles. In total are 560 of the currently 1015 ancient structures, which is 55.2%. The list is too long to mention here. I wouldn’t directly claim that the further back one goes, the more ancient structures were cardinally oriented.
Hi Mario, I have one question: have you ever compared the results of your datings to the Indian and Sumerian king lists? According to Indian traditions, for example, the cities of Shravasti, Kurukshetra and Hastinapur were founded by legendary kings who reigned during Satya, Treta and Dvapara Yuga respectively, hundreds of thousands of years ago. Have you ever checked the orientation of the buildings in these cities?
Hi Il Merlo Bianco, interesting question. No, we haven’t looked at possible correlations. That is an interesting suggestion, we certainly will take a look at this topic in the future.
Thanks, Mario
Interesting view on ancient history. I am an archaeologist myself. We are discovering so many new structures with new technologies that we are still trying to get our heads around all the new things we are discovering. I’m seriously believing that the ideas of archaeologists are still anchored in the past centuries, and that applies to their methodology too. Applaus for your probabilistic approach. I think you are onto something very important and very serious. I hope you are aware how tough it will be for you to get the academic society on board? My advice is to keep doing your research. An increasing number of archaeologists might subscribe to your ideas one day.
Thank you for your comment, Kay. Our probabilistic approach is so convincing that there’s very little space that we are wrong. One must be aware that we are always talking about the age of the original foundations of ancient structures. It can be possible that later settlers have been renovating a structure many times, making it sometimes almost impassible to recognize the original foundations. Yes, we are aware that convincing the academic society will be a tough nut to crack, and we are aware that it might even take decades. Thanks for reminding me to this.:) Mario.
One of the best and comprehensive article on Why the Orientation of Pyramids Correlates with Ice Ages, I am bookmarking it so I can read it again. You really inspired me to learn more. Thank You.
Follow up: Your work appears to compliment the research done by Doug Vogt at the Diehold Foundation or Ben Johnson at Suspicious0bservers.Org.
Fascinating work. Have you seen the research of Doug Vogt at the Diehold Foundation or Ben Johnson at Suspicious0bservers.Org? Their research is backed by a myriad of well known & respected scientists from around the world.
I would appreciate your feedback if possible.
Hi Lachesis, than you for your comment. Both, Doug and Ben, are doing pioneering research, although we do not agree with each other on many topics.
You all seem to be on the right track for the most part. Thank you for responding, much appreciated!
Imanuel Velikovski, in ‘Earth in Upheaval’ and ‘Ages in Chaos’ covered much of this. Fun and easy to read.
How seriously you take it is up to you.
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Hi Mario, I’ve been following your work for a couple of years, and I’m looking forward to see your book published, since I’m also a researcher and I would like to base some of my assertion on your ultimate work! Well, while awaiting, little doubts are still arising, such as the following. You say that your theory can explain the asimmetry of the distribution of the ice caps during the ice ages; but, the present pole position, Pole I, has been reached – you say – about 26 ky ago (moving from Pole II); still, the asimmetry of the ice distribution has continued for another 14 ky (about)… How do you explain it? Thank you.
Hi Loris, that is a good question, and I think I understand your doubts. Your sources are probably the Greenland proxies, and are you referring to the Late Glacial Maximum? Please correct me if I’m wrong. The LGM is officially dated somewhere between 16 and 32ky ago. Contrary to popular sources is it very uncertain to claim a more accurate timing.
One other thing must be kept in mind. If the location where the proxies are taken from is shifting, like Greenland’s location, it is not a reliable proxy for temperature reconstructions. According to our theory, the only reliable proxies are found on Antarctica, and that is because Antarctica is the most stable position on the globe.
Thank you, Mario. Just to make my thought clearer, I’m referring to the maximum extension of the ice caps during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM). According to mainstream science, the LGM has been reached between 26.500 BP and 20-19.000 BP (ref. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum), when ice caps reached the latitude of Manhattan in North America (about 40°N) and the latitude of Cardiff in Europe (about 51°N): 11° difference between the opposite sides of the Atlantic Ocean, a big asymmetry. Such asymmetry was also maintained during the subsequent deglaciation, until the Younger Dryas period (12.900-11.600 BP) when the North America ice cap re-advanced to the USA-Canada border, while in Europe the ice cap had remained only in Fennoscandia. If the present pole had been reached about 26.000 BP, according to your theory, still 45-50.000 BP it should have been not so far from present location (about 4-5° off). Therefore, it is quite difficult to understand the reason of such a persistent asymmetry of the ice caps. Well, my suggestion, and my question to you, Mario, is the following: is it possible that the pole has stayed in a intermediate position between Pole II and Pole I until the Younger Dryas event? I noticed that the location about 84°N-47°W is at the intersection of the axis of Gobekli Tepe circle D and the axis of the pyramid of Khentkawas at Giza (the wall of the Crow also has the same displacement in respect of the east-west direction). What do you think about this idea? Thank you.
The pole migration is not a simple lineair process. The data indeed suggests that the geo pole galloped in the beginning from Pole II towards Pole I, 80% of the distance in only 20,000 years. The start of the crustal deformation process was probably very violent. Most cultures were wiped away already in the first few centuries.
Practically speaking the geo pole position went from 76.0N, 45W to around 81,0N, 45W in less than 20ky, and then very slowly crept, over a time period of 80ky, towards its current position. This might solve your question.
Yes it does, definitely. Thank you very much, Mario.
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A very interesting thesis. Thank you very much.
My question: How far is the so called precession of the equinox built in these calculations?
Thank you for your answer to a layman.
Best wishes
Udo Schneider
Hi Udo, precession does not change the orientation of ancient structures in any way. Imagine that the spin axis is pointing to Vega in about 12,000 years, instead to Polaris, and nothing has changes on the earth’s crust itself. What changes? Only some things, like how the sky looks at night. The orientation of all the ancient structures on earth are still pointing to the same dense nodes that we have found.
It is irrational to suggest that the Teotihuacan Pyramid of the Sun is not aligned to the cardinal points of a previous north pole. I note that others have discovered that this pyramid aligns to what they refer to as the “Hudson Bay pole” which is very near Greenland.
Hi Ken, indeed is Teotihuacan aligned to a previous pole. However, it is not rational to claim that the site is aligned to a “Hudson Bay Pole.” This alignment “touches” many more places. Why then ignoring the other places?
Also, the massive crustal movements that Hapgood claimed – he believed that Antarctica also moved in the same way – would never result in the temperature proxies that we find on Antarctica. Hapgood’s work is interesting, but it is heavily outdated, and left and right overtaken by loads of new data. This data was not yet available when Hapgood published his work.
The orientation of Teotihuacan runs over the Hudson Bay. And so what? It does not necessarily ends there on a geo pole. Teotihuacan is also aligned to Siberia. So why not a Siberian Pole? Or maybe does it end on Hapgood’s Greenland Pole?
Hapgood’s Hudson Bay Pole is distilled by using paleomagnetic data. This data is not suitable to find any geo pole. It is wrong use of data, especially because the further you go back in time the more inaccurate paleomagnetic data becomes. There is no one who can say where exactly the Magnetic Pole was around 10,000 years ago. The work of McElhinny and McFadden shows how amazingly difficult it is to pin point the magnetic pole positions over the last 4,000 years. Hapgood also claimed a geo pole close to the coast of Norway. If that would be true, a massive ice sheet would have covered Siberia whole the way to China. And there is also no data that supports this. Hapgood also based his work on the patterns of coral reefs, but he neglected here that sea level changes also influence the patterns of these reefs. And we know for sure that the sea levels changed. Hapgood was not aware of all this data.
The point is that you need many hundreds of orientations spread around the world to draw significant conclusions. The orientation of Teotihuacan alone proves nothing.
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I recently watched a video by Praveen Mohan who pointed out that among many of Angkor Wat’s carvings 2 creatures are depicted that have been extinct for a million years or so. The gargantuan structure is claimed to have been built 1,200 years ago and faces east/west. Is it possible that this orientation was north/south when built?
Interesting comment, Robert. The original foundations of Angkor Wat are definitely not older than 26,000 year, because the complex is cardinally oriented. There are many more depictions to find around the world of dino-like creatures made by humanoids (sapiens, erectus, neanderthals). This suggests that ancient people have walked alongside dinos and other large extinct species. One of the conclusions then drawn, is that the builders ipso facto must have built this temple millions of years ago. That conclusion is based on too little research. These walls can easily originate from older temples.
It is truly impossible that Angkor Wat is built a few million years ago. The first simple mainstream (geological) test is this: during a few million years the plate on which this part of Asia is located would have rotated more than 5 degrees in the counterclockwise direction. So, the temple could not have been built millions of years ago, even not within the traditional geological context.
Praveen Mohan gives his viewers only two extreme options. The option we are working on is a more nuanced, scientific based one. New evidence is piling up that the earth has grown significantly over the last 500,000 years. Gravity has grown, large animals became extinct most probably only a few hundred thousand years ago. That is why we think that ancient people and large animals in the ancient past have walked alongside for a while. None of my “colleges” are doing totally own research. They are leaning partially on mainstream ideas and partially on their own, sensory observations. This does not lead to satisfying conclusions. In the end it leads people into a quicksand of incoherent ideas.
Thank you for such a fine rapid response. I do find it hard to believe though that this complex was built in under 40 years as claimed.
I believe we did walk with the large animals of the past who I believe died out because there was not enough oxygen in the atmosphere anymore to sustain them. Mary Schweitzer of North Carolina State University found collagen fibers in the fossilized leg bone of a Tyrannosaurus rex indicating that these creatures were probably around long after they were supposed to. I guess they did not get the extinction memo.
If you want to get into gravity, take a look at the works of Ken Wheeler aka. Theoria Apophasis whose videos I have become addicted to. Once you understand what he is saying about gravity, you may want to theorize what might have happened to the earth vis a vis gravity.
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I agree with you. Great work and great discoveries! Thanks.
Thanks for challenging the pontificating academics and scientists! Mankind has been around approximately 6000 years. It’s possible the megaliths were built by people. However, in alignment with ancient societies’ stories about ‘star people’, ‘titans’, ‘people from the sky’, and ‘fallen angels’ it seems likely the earth’s megalithic sites were built by these or their offspring with advanced technology in the ante-diluvian era. Or, it is possible these sites were built in the pre-Adamic age by fallen angels colonizing planets, leading up to how the earth became formless and void in the first place. See “The Gap is not a theory” by Jack W. Langford (2011). L.A. Marzulli has more on the origins of megaliths.
Hello! There’s so much to read here and a lot of comments, so please forgive me if someone has already asked this question. Does your theory nullify Hapgood’s Earth Crust Displacement theory? It’s been several years since I read his book, but I think he hypothesized Antarctica was once ice free because it actually existed as a land mass somewhere in what is currently the South Atlantic Ocean area. Later it moved (along with the other land masses) to its present position and became ice covered. The disaster movie 2012 was based loosely on his hypothesis about periodic slider of the entire outer mantle. Do you have a comment about his theory and how yours does or does/not dovetail with his? From what I’m reading, and if I understand it correctly, they are mutually exclusive. Thanks!
Hi Rafo, yes, more people have asked this question. Hapgood’s work was published years before the big data from Antarctica’s ice cores were published. Hapgood’s work suggests sudden shifts of the whole crust within matter of days. That is energetically very unlikely, probably impossible. You can use the search function of your browser to look for all the Hapgood related discussions.
Abit late in finding your website… quite illuminating on a pure science approach.
As for plate deformations, have you investigated the Expanding Earth theory to account for the ‘stretching’ we see? Along with the electric universe hypothesis…to incorporate more than gravity?
As a trained anthropologist (archaeology focus ) (BA95′) I found alternative perspectives more reasonable than the dogma I was taught in school. Astronomical alignments were not considered relevant, and yet your mathematical alignment compilations revealed a definite correlation. I never accepted the division of disciplines, so I appreciate your recent research that connects several disciplines beyond accepted mainstream limits.
Look forward to read more of your work.
Hi DiMarco, thank you for your interesting comment. Yes the expanding earth is a significant part of our work. You can browse around on our website or on our YouTube channel for more info.
Dear friend!
Your research is extraordinary. Perhaps at the same scientific and innovative level as Darwin’s Theory of Evolution proposition.
I would like to bring up the issue of Piri Reis’ maps again. It is a historically proven source as it was released BEFORE these subjects were banned in academia.
The Piri Reis map shows the GEOLOGY of Antarctica, something that has been proven recently through mapping below the glacial mantle. That is, the topography of the maps is correct in relation to the recent mapping. Peaks, mountain ranges, lakes etc.
This has already led some people to claim that the map, which Piri Reis himself claims to have based on MUCH older maps, was from a time when Antarctica was NOT covered by ice.
It seems to me that this completely parallel theory proves your wonderful theory.
Which leads us to propose that it is not the earth’s crust that moved, but the Earth’s own axis. Antarctica is not immovable, as you said, but it has followed the displacement of the axis.
Congratulations one more time!
Thank you very much for your comment and your great compliment, João. You could be very well right about the Piri Reis map. That this map might be based on much older maps, originally made at a time that Antarctica was still ice free, many many millions of years ago.
Their are some pyramid visable in Antarctica as you probably know. If they are truly pyramid is hard to say as Noone officially has done research, only refer to Google maps images. Have you looked at these pyramids and where they allign to? If real, they must be the oldest on earth
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Hi Mario,
Here’s a scientific paper that seems to support some of your own research (if you haven’t seen it already):
https://www.scientificexploration.org/docs/34/jse_34_2.pdf
Regards,
SC
Thank you, Scott. I know this research, and it supports indeed some of our ideas. But it contains some problematic scientific errors. Most people are intimated by the formulas, while they have no scientific meaning. First, is the assumption that any orientation is accepted as valid, meaning that all orientations (especially those in Egypt) are assumed to be oriented to one of the four poles. We have proven that only +/-45 degrees can be used as a valid scientific basis. Second, the research contains only two hundred sites, while there are many more ancient sites. We suspect they are cherry picked to support a prefixed idea, which are the poles of Hapgood. Why not one thousand ancient sites like we have done? Third, if one of these poles was really so close to England and Spain, the whole continent of Europe would have been covered in ice, whole the way up to Turkey. And this was not the case. The poles that we suggest are supported by all modern available data.
Are you Familiar with Hapgood’s Theory ? Do you believe in younger pole shifts like the Hudson Bay pole shift ,That’s said to be 50,000-55,000 years ago and Supposedly Greenland pool at 12,000 -17,000 years ago.I guess my question is Do you think these time lines are to early? Dose this theory fit with yours . Maybe The north pool was Greenland more than once and other places as well still Coinciding with your dates but skipping around in between the tens/hundreds of thousands of years . The oldest date Hapgood gives is 100’000 years and the North pole was in the Bering sea.
Yes, we know about Hapgood’s ideas. No, I don’t believe in the sudden, much younger pole shifts as proposed by Hapgood. It is unlikely that such massive events take place overnight. It might stir up your imagination of cataclysmic disaster, but it is energetically simply impossible. Hapgood’s Hudson Bay pole is distilled from paleomagnetic data, and he finally made quite some of a mess of all the data. Although I like Hapgood’s ideas, they are 100% incorrect.
If you know a litle about plaeomagnetic data, you might understand what went wrong. Paleomagnetism is the study of the movement of the magnetic pole. This data assumes that the crust remains stable, or at least no more movements than the current plate tectonic models suggest. And if you start to use this data then for “proving” the position of a geo pole, you then assume that the magnetic pole did not move. And one other thing is this; the EXACT movements of the magnetic pole are only known over the last 4,000 years. Beyond that it becomes scientific based guesswork.
Hapgood’s work is very inspiring, but they do not match with our conclusions. In Hapgood’s time the ice core data were not yet available as it is today. That is a game changer. Hapgood assumed that the crust moved uniformly as a whole, in our theory, the North pole moved radically while the South pole remained fairly stable. That is why we call it crustal deformations, and no crustal shift.
Fine way of explaining, and nice post to obtain information on the topic of my presentation subject, which i am going to deliver in college.
Take a close look at the globe in the “Release from Deception” sculpture: https://imgur.com/a/nbDuycY
Hi Alan. Interesting, the text says something like: “your chains of darkness and the night’s lungs are shackled to be condemned with the world.” Sounds like a Buddhist text. You’re suggesting that the statue could have been made at a time the earth’s geography was different?
Negative; we know who carved the statue and when it was made, but some folks on reddit became suspicious that the globe itself was based on older source material. There was a thread on it regarding the borders of the land masses on the sculpture recently: https://www.reddit.com/r/CulturalLayer/comments/gzbs9f/in_response_to_the_post_about_the_release_from/
Roger; I looked at the map again and again but I could not discover anything anomalous. It looks more like a fantasy map of the artist, or maybe a bad geographical knowledge at that time.
Hi Mario, I love your work. I was wondering though if you also register the orientation of the front of these ancient constructions. I would expect ancient observatories in the northern hemisphere all to be oriented toward the southern sun. The electric universe model suggests that at some point in our distant past Saturn was the pole star and I’m curious as to how many of these ancient sites in the northern hemisphere are in fact oriented toward the north pole. This would suggest that the close proximity of Saturn as the pole star was the prime motivation in the decision of these ancient architects in how they oriented their buildings. Perhaps a statistical analysis of the front orientations of these constructions might reveal when in our history Saturn may have actually been in this position.
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I’d like to add an additional thing to this idea, which could be a way to verify it.
Precession I think is a result of the movement of our Sun around a binary star. I don’t think this movement has any influence on the position of the geographic north pole.
Obliquity I think does have an influence on the position of the geographic poles.
The path of the geographic north pole that you found is meandering around the 47,1 reference line.
I think that the meandering could be because of the obliquity.
If I just calculate the maximum possible arc length because of the maximum change in inclination angle, I get a distance of approximately 270 km. And when I look at the picture of the meandering north pole, and try to estimate the distances, it seems that the deviation in the longitudinal direction stays within this 270 km.
If the exact (X,Y) coordinates of the former poles are known, I think it would be possible to verify the X coordinate for each former pole, based on the obliquity data and the found dates for the former poles and pole movements.
Could there still be another possible explanation for the observed change of the geographic north pole?
You did great work and the theory of earth crust deformations seems very plausible.
But please allow me to propose one more alternative possibility that could explain the moving geographic north pole.
I am aware that the idea could be all wrong, but I think it is worth it to at least give it a try.
In this video from Anton Petrov, it can be seen how the Sun and the planets that are revolving around the Sun are traveling through the galaxy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJDEhlE-DY
We all know that the Earth makes 1 rotation per day around its spin axis.
What do you think of the idea that the Earth does also rotate around another spin axis, that is perpendicular to the known spin axis?
It would make a full rotation in let’s say 20 million years. And the observed movement of the geographic north pole along the 47,1 reference line from pole V to the current pole is just a fraction of this rotation.
This rotation would normally have never been observed, but the orientation of the ancient monuments could have revealed it.
Just like the idea that the crust would be able to get loose and move / deform during periods of high eccentricity, this second rotation of the Earth could happen when the eccentricity of the Earth’s orbit is high. And the rotation would stop or slow down when the eccentricity is low.
As ridiculous as the idea sounds, at the same time it makes some sense as the geographic pole roughly moves along the 47,1 reference line. Also the movement of the Earth around the Sun is not yet fully understood, so it could well be that we are missing something there, which can explain in a much easier way why the geographic north pole changes its position.
Here is also a nice primitive way to find true north:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3l49zQREcY
Hi Mario,
I always did think that something was off, especially with the Great Pyramids of Giza. Why would the Egyptians build something so large and so mathematically precise just to make it a tomb?
I’ve been trying to tell my friends at school this, yet they think I’m stupid even when I present the facts explicitly. It’s quite odd really. It’s like they’ve been brainwashed and they have this sort of mindset that just refuses to change. Anyway, this website has posted the most controversial information I have ever seen! If I could, I would support you and your team on Patreon, but sadly, I’m not allowed to. Hope the research goes well!
I also heard that Antiquity Reborn is being released in the second quarter of 2020. I know that I can preorder it, but I just want to know when it’s being officially released, especially now that CoVID-19 is slowing down operations of most businesses.
-Aryan
Hi Aryan, thank you for your comment. Indeed, the majority of the population is conditioned to think inside the box, and it’s very hard for the masses to think outside of the box. The release of our book is postponed although I have not officially announced this. The world is busy with other things right now.
Cheers, Mario
Mario will your new book Antiquity Reborn contain a chart of locations and ages? Secondly
what is the date of the ancient city of Palmyra Syria? How far back does this Greek Culture
go. Far too much effort was placed on this pile of ancient rubble for it to be ordinary.
What a great site!
This confirms with clear evidence my own ideas that I already developed quite long ago.
I kindly request anyone to also read next documents:
http://henk-reints.nl/HR-the-flood.pdf
http://henk-reints.nl/HR-the-flood-02.pdf
They show clear evidence of a worldwide flood and they include a physical explanation.
By the way, it would be nice if every page had a “next page” button which would make it possible to easily read the whole bunch.
Thank you for the interesting links, Henk! You’re definitely right about the flooding patterns along many of the coasts. Some areas that are flooded are over 150 meters high. Imagine the height of these waves. Your documents are very much worth studying, which I will do. Thank you for the links.
A next button is a good idea, I will think about it.
Did you ever look at the phenomenon co2 seepage?
http://www.indiana.edu/~sierra/papers/2009/fitzgerald.html
This could be another explanation for the large increase of CO2 that we are experiencing.
Here’s another smoking gun that validates your comments on soil accumulation:
“The wooden lining of the well was found at a depth of about 5 feet (1.74 metres) below the surface.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7960879/Wooden-uncovered-Czech-Republic-worlds-oldest-manmade-timber-structure.html
Thank you for submitting this interesting article, Alan! It is rare to find wood of about 7,000 years old in this relative good condition, especially in this climate. There must have been conditions that preserved the wooden beams. I took this quote from a paper called Predicting the preservation of cultural artefacts and buried materials in soil: “Bones, teeth and shells (MB: and wood) are preserved better in soils that are permanently waterlogged by stagnant alkaline groundwater, as occurs in some lowland peat soils.”
The dating of the well is probably well done, because according to the article they used Dendrochronology (logical because it’s a wooden construction) instead of the more unreliable 14C method. The region where the well is found, around Ostrov, is quite rainy throughout the year, and it has abundant vegetation to built up soil at a high rate, at around 25 cm per millennium. In most of the regions where ancient megalithic structures are excavated is the climate so dry, hence the vegetation so poor that there hardly any soil formed. In these regions is the built up rate of soil often between 1 to 2 cm per millennium. Our dating method correlates one of one with the excavation depths i.c.w. the built up rates of soil in these specific regions. We have reduced the probability of coincidences to almost zero.
Cheers!
Mario
I am in awe every time I watch your work connect the dots. There is an ancient site which calls for your knowledge and insight named Adam’s Calendar in Africa. If you were kind enough to view the first 3 minutes of this video, I believe you could solve an amazing mystery…please make this one of your next films:
https://youtu.be/JsRSGCWv7Bk
Excellent work MB!
Thank you, Christian. I watched the first few minutes like you suggested. I was aware of the Adam’s Calender being a few degrees out of the current cardinal grid. Although the accuracy of the remained stones are not good enough to draw mind blowing conclusions, are the claims of Michael Tellinger very well in synch with our conclusions. Tellinger believes the stone circle is raised some 75ky ago. At that time was the crust in one of its extreme deformation cycles. On top of that is the South pole fairly stable, which contributes to the very little deviation of 3 degrees (and something) from True South that we see today. All in all, when looking at the whole set of patterns, are the claims of Tellinger in harmony with our findings.
Как быть с этой ориентацией? ))
Надеюсь у вас есть google – translate ))
Проводили исследования с помощью гугл-планета земля около шести лет назад )
Пересечения линий от строений на планете имеют довольно точные точки ориентации, чаще в трех позициях .
Современный северный полюс, полюс в штате небраска (сша) и гренландии, конечно.
Частично ориентация построек показана в видео. В основном для понимания технологии поиска полюса путем пересечений линий.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUwfFPHOHgY&t=2s – небраска
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoXDD8crDh4 гренландия.
Подписи в видео, на русском языке.. Но в целом, мне кажется, значения это не имеет ))
Благодарю вас за исследование.
TRANSLATION:
What to do with this orientation? )))
I hope you have google – translate))
Conducted research using google-planet Earth about six years ago)
The intersections of lines from buildings on the planet have fairly accurate orientation points, often in three positions.
The modern North Pole, the pole in Nebraska (USA) and Greenland, of course.
Partially the orientation of the buildings is shown in the video. Mainly for understanding the technology of finding the pole by crossing the lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUwfFPHOHgY&t=2s – Nebraska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoXDD8crDh4 greenland.
Signatures in the video, in Russian .. But in general, it seems to me, it does not matter))
Thank you for your research.
Quickly browsed through the suggested videos. Nice work for a beginner. However, for orientational nodes to be significant, in terms of probability, you need hundreds and hundreds of ancient monuments. If you are using obvious contemporary monuments you are playing Russian Roulette. 🙂 It has no meaning. We have currently compiled over ONE THOUSAND confirmed ancient monuments and the nodes do not suggest anything close to Nebraska. Maybe a few intersections may be pointing to there, but the nodes must be colossal to exclude coincidence.
Hi,
maybe also the sunken cities could be interresting. It is asumed that the sunken temples before the Indian coast are thousands of years old. If you are looking for orientations of very old ancient buildings you could find there something new.
Other sunken temples in india are close to chennai. I saw 10 years ago also one part of an old temple close to mahabalipuram in india which was uncovered by sand from the Tsunami in 2004. The people said that there is still a lot under water.
The story of most sunken cities is very unknown, but could in view with melting ice and rising sea levels help in your excellent research.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/sunken-cities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4i5dCIKalY
enjoy the pictures
Hi,
in Sudan there are incredible many pyramids from the Kusch. Some look orientated, some maybe older for my view have an different orientation angle. It’s in German, but very interresting research stuff. Looks not all foundations are found now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LsZFcxgUM
Thank you for posting this info, Moe. We will check it out.
Hi Mario,
I admire your work. Found a reference to your name in comments to a YouTube video with Graham Hancock or Randall Carlson presentation at an event a couple of years ago. I was convinced of the catastrophic past in our planet history long before. Started as a follower of William Hutton, then discovered Hancock, Brien Foerster, Carlson, Robert Schoch, John Anthony West. Also followed J. Marvin Herndon (nuclearplanet.com). I would add that I am a systems engineer by education and a software architect by trade. Simply put, this topic is my long-term interest, but neither professional nor commercial.
When your YT channel uploaded a video on the theory of expansion tectonics I felt like parts of the big puzzle started to come together. Even though one of your more recent comments indicated that you “were not sure to which extent the migrating pole relates to the growing earth”, your findings tell otherwise, in my opinion. Geometrically speaking, for the North Pole to migrate following the path over Greenland, yet for the South Pole to stay in place one of the following must happen:
– major repetitive subduction events in the Southern Atlantic Ocean (to fit the plate tectonics theory);
– growth of the planet (according to the expansion tectonics theory).
If there is no evidence for the former, the latter must have taken place. I understand this point of view is a gross simplification, based on multiple assumptions like Earth being a [perfect] sphere, symmetrical distribution of mass inside the planet, etc. Nevertheless, it is a logical conclusion based on the proposed path of the North Pole and the relatively static South Pole.
Once we have acknowledged the growth model, we must deal with a question of whether the growth is omnidirectional/symmetrical or not. What if the growth was not omnidirectional? What if most of new crust appeared within the Ring of Fire and along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge? Would not that make the path of the North Pole curved? Also, would not a past pole location determined by your method present a projection of that pole location given the current size of the planet Earth and the current coordinates of ancient landmarks (after some periods of Earth’s growth/expansion)?
The animation of the North Pole’s path over Greenland that this website features so prominently is based on the current map of the Northern Hemisphere. I would love an alternative animation where you could try to remove some isochrons and shrink the map for the past poles. So, each pole position would have its own map where the continents and the oceans would have their corresponding relative positions. When shown in natural progression, such animation would show both growth of the planet and movement of the spin axis.
Previously, you noted that the Hawaiian Islands seemed to be younger than acknowledged by the modern geology, that the locations of the islands corresponded to the pole locations, and that the movement of the crust there seemed to be linear up until a turn at 32.8°N, 172.6°E. It would be an interesting exercise to see if, for the past pole position maps, we could determine Atlantic seafloor isochrons to be left out based on that finding for the Hawaiian Islands and Pacific seafloor isochrons (i.e., if the isochrone dates’ discrepancy would seem to match).
This may be the stuff of dreams, though. For now, many thanks for your work. Wishing you all best, looking forward to reading your book one day.
Sincerely,
DK
Thank you for your interesting comment, DK. I can basically agree on everything you say in your comment. We have still many years of research ahead, and merger of expansion with the migration North pole and steady South pole is one of our most important subjects. But that is not such an easy task. Because the isochrons on the ocean floor and thus expansion are constructed based upon the excursions of the magnetic pole. That means that all the data has to be re-examined and that is many years of work.
Your article has astound me. With utmost clarity, at least for me, you describe in your article a truth that I haven’t read anywhere else. I have tried to understand the ancient past for many decennia and understood there is something not right. Timelines do not fit, stories do not fit, logic does not fit. Until now! It makes all sense. And I felt inside how this deeper understanding resonated with me and what a fight it is to resist our conditioning, what we learned at school, and just let this knowledge do its work in my consciousness. Really amazing!
Thanks a million and please continue the gratifying work.
Christian
Hi, I’m intrigued by your findings. I have been doing my own research regarding some Ancient Indian Temples and are starting to get many insights in terms of their specific locations, distance and angles between them. I realize that Sri Kalahasti Temple, Ekambareswarar Temple and Thillai Natarajar Temple are all located on a geographical straight line of 79°41’E. Does this straight lines have anything to do with one the 6 poles you research has suggested? Thanks
This could possibly something interesting. One thing that’s always good to keep in mind is the immense total amount of temples that India has. There will be possibly always some pattern to find if we want to find the pattern, especially if we neglect the temples that do not fit in this pattern.
Mario,
I find your work on polar positions extremely interesting. I wish to make some constructive criticism about the notion of mankind having multiple civilizations going back for 400,000 years or more. If it has taken 10,000 years to develop a population of 7 billion then 40 such civilizations over 400,000 years could have produced 280 billion people. We should find skeletons almost everywhere we put a shovel down!. Here are some other issues that need clarifying on this point:
1. After developing nuclear power several times we should be able to find ancient waste disposal sites by the left over radiation. No finds found yet.
2. With all of the extra people many minerals and oil should have already been mined out with nothing for us to find and use.
3. We should have been able to reach the Moon multiple times and with the detailed surveying we have now we should be able to find many moon landers still sitting there for us to find on photo data.
4. The main locations for hydroelectric dams should have been used multiple times making it easy to find remains of multiple dams but we find nothing.
5. Our human presence has already caused an alarming cost of species. Wouldn’t 40 such civilizations have left us even more bereft than we already are?
Or, is it the case that over 400,000 years that mankind never reached 7 billion people for some strange reason? In any case, it leaves many questions to deal with.
Thank you for your comment, Jeremy. It takes a long time for a civilization to develop. Before our current civilization started to boom some 10ky ago, it slumbered for many millenniums. Not 40 civilizations covered our planet, but 6 at most over the last 400ky. During the periods of crustal unrest, no civilization can thrive or develop. Recently the discovery in the Guatemalan jungle, by using Lidar, showed that around 15 million people lived in an area of the size of Mexico city while there are hardly any bones left. Because the time period is not just 10ky but between 50 to 100ky, most bones are decayed, scattered over the area, buried by natural processes, and swallowed by the earth.
ad 1) you assume cultures develop in the same way;
ad 2) you assume the sort of mining materials and quantities are always the same for every culture;
ad 3) you assume we are all space travelling species that develop their space program in the same way;
ad 4) you assume we all should use the same methods of power generation;
ad 5) not 40, just 6 civilizations. It is not the amount of our species that is alarming, it is our way of living. Consuming meat, driving cars, flying airplanes, and pollution is the problem, and not the amount of people;
It is fully normal that 5 former civilizations reached in the billions, but it is the way of living that makes all the differences.
Thanks, Mario
1) Can you find evidence of current nuclear waste disposal sites without knowing exactly where they are?
2) There is (supposedly) significant of mining in Michigan with the suspicion that much of the mined materials went to the Mediterranean 12,000+ years ago.
3) It is difficult for us to find evidence of our own Lunar landings when we know where to look: https://www.space.com/13010-snoopy-nasa-lost-apollo-10-lunar-module-search.html
4) Assuming we used hydroelectric power. In 2018, they discovered vertical shafts under the Pyramid of the Sun. There seems to be a common element in pyramids with vertical shaft structures underneath them. The fact is that, aside from later pyramid-shaped tombs, we don’t know if pyramids served a purpose other than as memorials and if the later ones weren’t some sort of cargo-cult tribute. Perhaps the pyramids are the antiquity equivalent of dams.
5) I’m not so sure of this. If we’d never known of the peacock or dodo bird, how would it affect us today?
Thanks for your valuable additions, Alan.
It is a known fact that people like to procreate and given thousands of years to do so they will reach into the billions even with wars, plagues, and pestilence in the way. If these people never developed modern agricultural methods they would have repeatedly had overpopulation die outs. Now it is possible that in the past the Earth was in a much more active earthquake and volcano condition wiping us out by the hundreds of millions. How fortuitous then that we seem to be the lucky generation that has gone farther than anyone else getting to the planet Pluto! To answer some of your points:
1. Can we find radioactivity? – Yes we can! We have quite nice maps showing us the location of Thorium on the Moon, these were not constructed having thousands of astronauts walking around the Moon with Geiger counters.
2. Finding lunar landers – The United States, China and now India have all mapped the Moon to less than a couple of meters of resolution. We do have legible photos of our own lunar landers and if there are others we can in theory find them although I admit that it will take some time to be certain. If Google could update their Moon program to use this data I am sure millions of viewers out there would be able to find something pretty quick. Maybe I will be proven wrong!
3. Hydroelectric power – Are you asking me to believe that no one out of the billions of people born except for our civilization would ever have discovered the power of water? Of course Africa never seemed to discover the wheel but the rest of the world did. Did mankind discover the same things in the same order we did? Is this a natural progression of knowledge? Perhaps the stone workers of Baalbek would be just as in awe of our particle colliders as we would be of their stone working. With the rate that we are currently accumulating knowledge I believe we will finally solve some of these questions.
And one for Mario who said
“It is not the amount of our species that is alarming, it is our way of living. Consuming meat, driving cars, flying airplanes, and pollution is the problem, and not the amount of people”
If this is true I would like you to tell us what is the proper way to be living then. I cannot think of one major survival problem that we have that would not be solved by reducing our population. Are we supposed to be mindless rabbits populating until we destroy everything?
I love your work! Ground breaking! I made some back of the envelope calculations and working off the growing earth model calculated the approximate circumference of the earth when pole IV was dictating the orientation of stone henge. From there I calculated the approximate volume of the earth was 62% of it’s current size. The people of that time would have been much taller with the subsequent lower gravity. Lends credibility to all these mysterious reports throughout history of giant skeletons being unearthed around the world.
Thank you for your comment, Alex. We are at the moment not sure to which extent the migrating pole relates to the growing earth. You can be very well right in your thesis, and this would explain many more mysteries. But to be more sure about that we need more investigation.
The Athlantean people were giants, they lived at least 50.000 years ago, perhaps longer? In other parts of the world Giant bones were found, most were hidden by Vatican and other organisations
This is my first time I visit here. I found so many entertaining stuff on your website, especially the discussions. From the tons of comments on your articles, I guess I am not the only one having all the enjoyment here! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the information. Also I noticed you mentioned that the earth may be less old than currently thought. My understanding from conventional sources is that the earth is approx 5 billion yrs old and life (as evidenced by stromatolite type structures) originated around 3.8-4.2 billion yrs ago. Is that off? Also do you believe that that outside interference with our evolution began with homo erectus or does it go back to the very beginning of life on earth? Thanks
We have little doubt about the age of the earth, it is probably indeed between 4 to 5 billion years old. But the original earth, some 4 billion years ago, was much smaller than it is today. Our planet is probably a dynamic organism. The Cambrian explosion is a serious problem in Darwinism. As long as there is no perfect scientific explanation for the Cambrian explosion all options are open.
Interesting, thanks. Apologies for the for the rapid fire questions but this is fascinating stuff. Also I realize the following question may be outside your primary area of expertise as well as being currently unanswerable but maybe you’ve given it some thought?: if there has been a steady flow of outside interference in the evolution of life on earth (btw I have been an attendee at 2 Gordon conferences on the origin of life) then were the interferers also a product of interference in their evolution and so on? If so what about the very first intelligent life form – no one else was out there to interfere with it – did it evolve “naturally” or are we dealing with a whole new paradigm? Thanks
The universe is probably many times older than science currently assumes. In fact, the age of the universe is infinite and it still has infinite time ahead. And still, we had an infinite amount of universes (and so big bangs) before us and an infinite amount of universes ahead of us. We humans cannot wrap our minds around the concept of infinity. This topic goes too far for now, because it is a mathematical lecture of six thousand pages, but life and the universe revolves around grasping what zero is.
Life probably evolved soon after the formation of stable solar systems. There can easily have been organisms that evolved rapidly into very advanced species that quickly started to spread over the universe. Imagine what happens when these species is a billion years or maybe more ahead in evolution than us?
Hi. Thank you for sharing your incredible and unique work. Brilliant stuff. I do have a quick question regarding your thoughts on whether “advanced beings” are part of the story or not. I seemed to get the impression that Homo sapiens, themselves, in the higher ages in your view were conscious enough to create advanced civilizations without the need for outside influence (by a higher beings whether alien or immaterial or whatever). But I believe I saw in one your, or your affiliate, YouTube videos there was discussion about Anunnaki interference. Do you believe that the Sumerian texts about Anunnaki influence are correct? Or were homo sapiens, on their own, more than capable of advanced accomplishments? Or were Homo sapiens the (partial) offspring of Anunnaki – and not direct, natural outcomes of Darwinian evolution? Thanks
Hi Robert, thank you for your interesting question. There was in the evolution of Homo sapiens a very short moment in time, around 420,000 years ago, that millions of sudden genetic mutations reshaped Homo erectus miraculously into Homo sapiens. It is unlikely that this was an uncontrolled genetic process. The Sumerian texts contain descriptions of the creation of a slave species around that same time. We also believe, although that is harder to prove, that there were more than one experiments done, Neanderthals en Denosivians, and maybe many more.
The beginning of Genesis is a subset of the Sumerian tale. The Elohim were E.T.s that decided “Let us make man in our image, in the likeness of ourselves” Gen. 1-26 . They did such a good job that “the sons of the Gods looking at the daughters of men saw they were pleasing so they married as many as they chose”. Gen 6-2 . I’m always amazed that two species could mate together and produce viable offspring. It is the same “myth” that we heard all across the ancient world.
Anyways, I saw an Ancient Aliens episode where they had a DNA study from UCLA that concluded there was some kind of “cosmic event” around 36,000 years ago that boosted human DNA around that time. I’ve tried to get my hands on that study but haven’t succeeded. Can we tie the two events together?
In any case, I think that residents of the earth hundreds of thousands of years ago should be referred to as “intelligent biological entities”. That would be 100% beyond question as truth.
Ok thanks for the reply. I guess I’m having trouble reconciling the interference with the ages. Meaning, rhetorically, if there is a Golden Age then shouldn’t that be sufficient to explain the brilliance of Homo sapiens without the need for outside interference (as an explanatory tool)? Whereas if there were no Golden Ages then it would make more sense to implicate some sort of deus ex machina as the Sumerian texts seem to do. Why have both? I realize that the answer may simply be – both occurred – deal with it. But, again if there was outside influence, as you seem to be implying, then what role do the ages have? for example do the outside influencers time their influence by the ages or time there exits by the ages, etc? Thanks
Also, have you considered presenting your materials at the annual CPAK conference? think would be a nice venue and receptive audience
Thanks for the interesting view points, Robert.
Many people and this includes most scientists have troubles with combined events or patterns, and prefer mono ideas that are easy to understand and easy to unravel. In reality that is almost never the case.
We go top down and provide a large time frame. We work from the mathematical domain towards the materialistic domain, and not vice versa. We have proven that orientation of ancient monuments, when they are processed in large quantities, show us the way to four former geo poles. This is the main topic, and this has many implications on a list of scientific disciplines.
Because the main body of our work is purely mathematical and is not biased in its essence by all kinds of stories or materialistic ideas we have sifted out all the rubbish. But I do not want to suggest that we suddenly have all answers on all questions. We haven’t.
The creation myths is something that we can neglect as if they aren’t there, and we can also neglect the sudden genetic mutations at a given time, because we don’t like the answers, or we don’t like the implications they have, or that they disturb our nice mono causational ideas. But they are clearly present in many cultures spread all over the world. It can be all together; evolution, creation, mutations, Yuga cycles (according to Yukteswar), catastrophes, extinction events, etc. This can make up an intimidating complicated pattern.
Cheers, Mario
>>Many people and this includes most scientists have troubles with combined events or patterns, and prefer mono ideas that are easy to understand and easy to unravel.
My own conclusion is that in many areas of academia, the system strongly discriminates in favour of mindless parrotting of whatever is the current nonsense, and strongly discriminates against anyone who can actually see beyond that current nonsense, even when the level of nonsensicalness is truly idiotic. Examples can be found in my book Experts Catastrophe http://www.pseudoexpertise.com. Probably the most worthless degree to get is a medical one, as it consists almost entirely of lethally dangerous pseudoscience, with quite a bit of training in advanced incurable ignorance on top. PS – Good to known I’m not the only genius still alive! Cheers.
Cheers.
I was just introduced to a theory yesterday of the Earth being self-regulating with CO2 and temperature. I’ve been thinking a lot about what happens to the Sun’s energy that enters the Earth’s atmosphere and is not reflected back into space. There is little matter outside of the planet for the absorbed energy to radiate into. I understand that some of the lighter elements — Hydrogen and Helium — will escape the atmosphere over time. Yes, if the Sun were to go out, I assume the Earth would get cold very quickly, but I attribute that to temperatures being absorbed into the cold depths of the Oceans and the majority of our Atmosphere that is very cold as well, not to the energy leaving.
Much of the mass of trees in our forests does not come from the ground, but from the Carbon atoms liberated from CO2 in the air. Photosynthesis is an endothermic reaction. It absorbs the Sun’s energy to separate Carbon from Oxygen (Richard Feynman talks about this).
The theory that I heard relates to the cooling of the earth and increase in snow and ice caps reflecting more of the sun’s energy during ice ages.
Now, here are the questions that this made me ask:
* How much energy does the Earth retain from the Sun?
* If energy is retained, how does the planet manage to not continuously increase in temperature over time? This may give more credibility to the growing Earth hypothesis. It also makes me wonder if Venus or Ganymede aren’t in different periods in a cycle.
Very interesting topics, Alan. There’s very little doubt that the earth will cool down when the sun doesn’t shine anymore. But the earth gets warmer the deeper you go, and that heat is not provided by sunlight. So where does this energy come from? Internal frictions, caused by gravity of the sun, moon, and other planets? And when the sun stops shining how much of this internal heat will keep our feet warm? And if geologists are right, the earth has cooled down over the last few billion of years. The big question is if that is correct. And if it is correct the earth seems to lose energy instead of retaining it. But why was the earth so hot in the first place? There are still so many questions…
>>But why was the earth so hot in the first place?
There is another genius (name forgotten) I encountered on the web who explained that when stars become very old they are no longer visible but they continue to exist, becoming “planets”, and the moon is an even more ancient former sun. So of course the earth would be hot inside. Needless to say his great understanding is being ignored in the so-called universities, where people are so dumb they even just go on parrotting that “autism is a disorder” and so on (as per http://www.pseudoexpertise.com).
There’s also great work from the UnchartedX channel on youtube (which led me to here). Cheers.
Thank you Zod for explaining the 24k Great Year cycle.
Nice to know that the second sun is coming back to us again.
Kenneth, the Great Year is extremely well introduced by the video you linked to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0 ), produced by the Binary Research Institute, who well know the identity of the Sun’s twin, but leave it to the perspicacious viewer to investigate.
As to ‘coming back’, well, it’s about 4-6kAU away at the mo (aphelion, apoastron, apoapsis), and in a dozen millennia it will be at its closest at 1.5-2kAU (perihelion, periastron, periapsis).
You can tell how long it’s been known about by how long we’ve had symbols such as the Vesica Piscis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter#/media/File:Orbit5.gif ), the Zodiac, and combinations thereof (Seal of Solomon).
The adversity for denizens of The Earth is only caused by the transition of the solar system above and below the galactic plane, into & out of oppositely polarised fields, and the consequent pole flip (with concomitant crustal slippage). Negative stability increases, until, with little warning, re-orientation occurs. Hence the Great Pyramid being built to serve as a more advanced warning.
NB The Dzhanibekov Effect is not the cause, but helps understand how an axial flip (with rotation reversal) is a relatively easy, momentum preserving transformation for a spinning body, and thus needs little external force to trigger. Hence the Sun rises on the opposite horizon (for a tiny few survivors).
Thank you Zod. This is interesting information.
I did some research on the reason why the Earth spins in the first place and from that I can understand a bit that the direction of rotation would change with a flip of the magnetic poles. It also would give a possible reason for any increase or decrease of the rotational speed with changing distance between the Suns and the Earth.
If I understand your explanation correctly, the direction of rotation of the Earth reverses every 12k years? Or every 24k years?
I read the book of Edgar Cayce about Atlantis and in this book dates for the different destructions of Atlantis are mentioned.
The first destruction of splitting the continent into islands is dated to around 50k BC. The second destruction that completely submerged the remaining islands is dated to around 28k BC. And the final destruction of the last island of Atlantis is dated to around 10-11k BC. The book also dates the building of the Great Pyramid to around 10400 BC. And the start of the library of Alexandria is dated to around 10300 BC in the book. So right after the final destruction of Atlantis.
There are numerous stories of the surviving Atlanteans going to Egypt after the final destruction.
I would not neglect the influence of the Niburu system. Apart from this 24k cycle, there seem to have been more ‘minor’ destructions that caused changes more recently in our history. The last time probably happened during the Exodus, which was caused by the eruption of the Thera volcano on Santorini. And the one before that probably destroyed the original civilization that was present in ancient Sumer.
Kenneth, the essential information is that we are in a barycentric orbit of 24k years, with 12k periodicity embedded in ice cores and geological strata. It is possible that the nature of the upheaval may change according to whether the 2nd Sun is close (at 1.5-2kAU) or far (4-6kAU).
Such knowledge has been occulted and polluted over the years, such that astrology is now akin to fortune telling, and geology has been forced to forget its catastrophist origins to adopt a gradualist basis: https://www.icr.org/article/up-with-catastrophism
The Great Pyramid was built to withstand several cataclysms, so was built over 12,000 years ago, i.e. 10kBC at the latest. Gobekli Tepe and its fellow sites were probably built just after the last cataclysm.
Thank you Zod. I really think we should take into account the Niburu system as well as it seems to act as a trigger for cataclysms, even in periods when the second sun was not at aphelion or perihelion.
I am not completely sure of the rotation reversal of the earth. If this would be the case, possibly Mario would have found some clues for this in his research into what some of the ancient structures like Stonehenge were used for.
According to the information on this website Gobekli Tepi dates back to 250k years.
The reversal of rotation is a preposterous idea that runs against every mathematical or physical principle. It is believed by a certain community of prepper-guys that the earth rotates because of the magnetic field and if that flips the rotation might flip. But the basics are incorrect; the magnetic field is present because the earth rotates and not vice versa. And that is true because variations in the magnetic field varies when the ration varies a bit, that is how you know what causes what. This idea is also promoted by Suspicious Observers, and that is how you know that this channel is basically unscientific in its core, although it promotes papers and so and discusses deep topics in a superficial manner. These guys are missing the big picture completely.
Where would the energy be stored when the rotation slows down and stops? Where would it come from when it starts to rotate again? If one postulates these ideas in the world one must also solve this “battery” function. Saying that it is stored in the core are just words and assumptions and not based on scientific facts. Discussions like this do not belong here on our website. I suggest you guys to discuss this topic on unscientific forums like that of Graham Hancock or so.
Mario, I agree that the idea of the Earth stopping its rotation and then resuming it in the reverse direction is indeed preposterous, however it is understandable that people would infer this ‘stopping’ had to occur if the Earth reverses its rotation.
You’ve seen the Dzhanibekov Effect yes?
This is where a spinning body in zero G inverts its spin axis 180° and reverses its direction of rotation at the same time (in a continuous rotational transformation – with no stationary phase).
Are you suggesting that this is impossible – despite many videos demonstrating it occurring?
The Dzhanibekov Effect is part of our set of causes, and it is indeed a very interesting phenomenon where energy is conserved. There is no reversal in rotation, there’s reversal in orientation.
Kenneth, I mentioned ‘Nibiru’ only because it may denote the point of crossing (of the Sun and its partner – across the galactic plane), and/or some celestial configuration that occurs at the same time, e.g. ‘The woman clothed with The Sun’.
I trust you aren’t buying into the cock & bull story of Nibiru as a rogue planetary system?
Mario, in this video from 1:05 is a rotating wingnut.
At first it is rotating clockwise. It then inverts its axis AND changes to rotate anti-clockwise.
Being a wingnut makes it easy to recognise the change in direction of rotation – from ‘doing up’ to ‘undoing’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VPfZ_XzisU
Here’s a link to a collection of references to ancient descriptions of The Sun rising/setting on the opposite horizon:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_velikovsky06_04.htm
Mario, thank you for clearing up the possible reversal in orientation with the Dzhanibekov Effect.
I would be interested to see more about this in relation to your research.
Zod, yes I think I have some evidence that there is not only a second Sun but also planets that orbit this Sun.
These will not come in to collision with our solar system, but they probably cause things like heavy earthquakes because of electromagnetic waves. What I found is a way to explain the post glacial sea level rise since the last ice age (ECD).
Certain catastrophic events seem to have caused parts of the ice sheet(s) to collapse and slowly slide into the sea. This is what is known as meltwater pulses. It is the relatively rapid release of meltwater.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
If you look when these meltwater pulses happened, you can find that the last 2 largest ones happened at an interval of around 3600 years, which appears to be the orbital period of Niburu around the second Sun.
When you assume that the eruption of the Thera volcano that ended the Minoan civilization and caused the Exodus (convincingly explained in the documentary The Exodus Decoded), was caused by Niburu you get a date of around 1500 – 1600 BC.Counting backwards you will get the following dates: 5200 BC (flood of Gilgamesh, ancient Sumer), 8800 BC (10800 CE: last largest meltwater pulse), 12400 BC (14400 CE: meltwater pulse 1A).These last 2 dates do fit quite nicely with the graph that shows the last largest meltwater pulses. Somehow it makes sense, that a substantial amount of parts of an ice sheet would collapse only after a period of heavy earthquakes / tsunami’s and that this would cause the meltwater pulse.We know that in this period the ECD already ended, so an ECD did not play a role in this. If parts of the ice cap would not have collapsed, the sea level rise would show a smooth graph.
It is possible to keep counting backwards and see what you will get. So far it matched quite welll with some dates that I found for large tsunamis that happened in the past and dates of destructions mentioned in books about our ancient past. To be sure, further serious investigation would be needed.
Kenneth, our second sun most likely also has planets, however, I very much doubt that there is any significant interaction between the two solar systems – except for resonance of more distant planetary orbits with the barycentric orbital period of 24k years (Sedna, etc).
As for ‘Nibiru’, this is most probably just another name for the second sun, i.e. ‘the planet of the crossing’. It was red until it reached apoastron some time ago, whereupon it became white (during the crossing), and it is now tinted blue (qv ‘Kachina’). In one sense our second sun appears in the night sky as if it were a planet, i.e. it does not precess with the celestial sphere. However, it is actually a star. It is fixed, and does not ‘wander’ as the other planets do.
The cock & bull story of Nibiru being a rogue solar system (or brown dwarf, etc) was probably created pre-emptively to muddy the waters as it were – as no doubt it was expected that our twin sun (and sibling solar system) would eventually be deduced and become more widely discussed.
I only see convincing evidence of celestial causation for terrestrial trauma with a 12k periodicity. Therefore, I’m inclined to conclude that any anachronous terrestrial trauma (if not invented as chaff) probably has a terrestrial cause (or one local to our solar system). The idea of a ‘Melancholia’ type intruder is an implausible deus-ex-machina.
Evidence is sparse, and there is a lot of chaff. But, then, when you understand the effort put in to the hiding of the second sun, along with the effort put in to ensuring that it is not forgotten, you understand that it is critical knowledge.
Zod, I think we should discuss this somewhere else if we wish.
However, in my opinion the meltwater pulse demonstrates quite well the 3600 year orbit period of Niburu.
And I see no evidence of a 12k year periodicity of terrestrial trauma.
Other than that it is a matter of belief maybe.
I believe that the second Sun was known in ancient Egypt as Hathor. And Niburu as Apophys.
The Egyptians stopped writing about these gods when Alexander the Great founded Alexandria and they were completely abandoned under the Ptolemaic dynasty: https://www.ancient.eu/Ptolemaic_Dynasty/.
The same dynasty also introduced the geocentric model, where the Sun orbits around the Earth.
Hi Mario,
It rather seems to me that the latitudinal ‘gaps’ between your various pole locations in Greenland may actually be indicative of a spiral motion where the gaps in each spiral turn are narrowing before the spiral finally terminates at the present Arctic Sea pole. This is to say I think the ‘path of the pole’ is actually a continuous SPIRAL path that connects all of these points in Greenland. I did some rough checks and I’m fairly sure that a spiral path would also bring in southeast Alaska, Hudson Bay and the Greenland Sea (as per Hapgood’s research) – and, of course, a spiral motion would be required to conserve angular momentum.
Just a thought.
SC
Hi Scott, you are probably referring to the spiral motion as proposed in the paper of Wolfli, Baltensperger, Nufer from October 15, 2018. This motion however is leaning on very little evidence. And if that motion ever would have taken place why did it leave Siberia completely unaffected? The spiral motion is furthermore based on the assumption that angular momentum had to be saved. It might have been changed while no one knows about the whys and hows. The crust is only 1% of the total mass of the earth which means that deformations of the crust can take place unnoticed when it comes the TOTAL angular momentum.
Antarctica is in the paper of WBN unmentioned except as some side note in the references. Antarctica must play a major role one way or the other in crustal deformation cycles.
Hi Mario,
Yes, that’s the paper. Here it is here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0204004.pdf .
The reason I see the spiral ‘signature’ in your data is because the closer you get to the spiral termination point (the present pole) the fewer ‘node’ points criss-cross these areas and that may simply be the fact that the closer to the centre of the spiral the smaller the spiral ‘arcs’ becomes, hence the pole will be at this position for much less time, hence why fewer alignments. The further out from the spiral centre you go, then the ‘arc’ or ‘arm’ of the spiral will be longer giving more time for alignments to be made.
The obliquity of the Earth’s axis may also oscillate as at it passes along the spiral path. This means, of course, that the more oblique the angle of the pole then the greater the radius of the polar region. It may then be that will the spiral was at its closest path to Siberia, the obliquity of the Earth’s polar axis was more upright thereby a polar region with a much smaller radius, hence Siberia may not have been within the polar region even although the spiral path may come very close to Sibera.
I also notice that there are a lot of node points in southeast Alaska which I think is very interesting indeed as it ties in very well with the work of Jim Bowles and Jim Alison who showed that Giza was almost at the equator (along with many other ancient sacred sites) which, together, pointed to an Alaskan pole. See here: https://grahamhancock.com/geographic-geometric-relationships-alisonj/
Enjoying your work.
Best wishes,
SC
https://mariobuildreps.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Becker-Hagens-UVG-grid-system-Ley-Line-Grid-.png
HI Mario (again),
Meant to add this image to my last post:
https://i.imgur.com/9SkM5Bo.png
This shows Hapgood’s four poles although he never imagined the spiral path. As you can see (and it’s what intrigues me), the node points you show with the greatest concentration of criss-crosses (hits), seem to follow the path of this particular spiral to a reasonably good degree.
Best,
SC
Hi Scott, we all agree on the same thing: Greenland has been on the spin axis during the last series of ice ages. That is a good start. The oriental nodes of ancient monuments are not suggesting any spiral motion of the North pole. Our mathematical research has found conclusive evidence of deformation of the crust that caused the North pole to migrate while the South pole remained at a fairly stable position.
The Hawaiian island chain follows a similar (lineair) path as the North pole did, and we have seen the same lineair path in the Yellowstone Calderas. A whopping 95% of the ancient monuments on the Western hemisphere are clockwise oriented and 75% of the monuments on the Eastern hemisphere are counterclockwise oriented. This pattern would not occur with a suggested spiral motion of the geo North pole. We would in that case see a spreading in orientation in both directions which is clearly not the case.
The researchers of the paper you mentioned jumped too early to the conclusion of the spiral path with too many assumptions on their way.
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Could the following be true?
Eccentricity, the growth rate and earth crust displacements are not a constant process. This we know.
You have also explained to me earlier that eccentricity causes gravitational oscillation.
In the temperature fluctuations we often see a relatively deep and steep drop when the crust starts to move. Then there are all these parts of the graph that show the temperature temporarily going up again. Can it be that these are in between periods of rest, in which ocean currents (and possibly also changes in atmospheric pressure as per Ned Nikolov) restore the balance of the temperature changes caused by the ECDs? This could explain ancient monuments that are not precisely pointing to one of the former poles, and would give our ancestors a higher chance of survival.
In fact this would show that the parts of the graph (during the total ECD) in which the temperature goes up again, are the same effect as what happens during the ‘rebound effect’.
As eccentricity is not constant, the oscillations (due to annual changes in gravitation) on the crust are not constant as well. When the crust starts to move it seems to move at a constant speed (as seen on the slope). While this happens eccentricity changes resulting in a gradual change in the frequency of the gravitational oscillation. The crust stops moving when the oscillation frequency does not match the needed frequency for ECD anymore. ECD will continue again when eccentricity causes another oscillation frequency that will give the crust the needed vibration energy to start moving.
It seems to me it is not only about the amplitude of eccentricity but also the frequency of the oscillations.
All in all, I think that the crust does not move in a single constant uninterrupted movement, but rather in multiple steps with periods of rest in between.
If you just do an experiment with a sheet of paper that is pressed down firmly with your finger, and you try to move the paper with your other hand, it is very hard to move the paper while exerting a constant force. It is much easier to move the paper by exerting an oscillating force (moving your hand left and right in an oscillating way). If you do this at the right speed you will be able to move the paper. If you do this too slow the paper will not move. And there are different possible combinations possible for the amount of exerted force and the speed of swinging your hand. This effect is also very well known by windsurfers to take apart 2 pieces of the mast when sand at the point where the 2 pieces fit together, blocks any movement.
Exactly.
The ECDs tick as a clock on eccentricity. As eccentricity grows the gravitational forces between the Earth and the Sun grows quadratic.
For example. Today’s eccentricity is around 0.0167, and so varies perihelion and aphelion between 0.9833 and 1.0167. But 115ky ago it was 0.0439. The perihelion and aphelion were 0.9561 and 1.0439. That means that the gravitational variations between the Earth and the Sun within only a half year varied massively more than today. And we are pretty sure that this oscillation is one of the triggers of ECDs. But if today’s eccentricity is enough to trigger a new ECD as it seems to have done some 400ky ago is still an unanswered question. Because we might be looking at an event with multiple causes we are unsure to predict what will happen in the future.
The recurring upward temperature in the glaciation graphs is the recuperation phase of the entire biosphere that went crazy after climatic zones were shifted. The downward flanks of the graphs are the ECDs. The biosphere needs time to rebalance after an ECD.
Indeed, there is also a correlation between the rate of eccentricity (hence the rate of gravitational oscillations) and the amount of crustal deformation. But there also seems to be a trend breaker like Pole VI to Pole V, and that might be triggered by the multiple causality of the ECDs, and that could make it much more unpredictable than we think it is. The amount of variables involved in the process of a crustal deformation, like eccentricity, volumetric expansion, weight increase, spinning top reaction, the Dzhanibekhov effect, makes this process wildly complicated. That might be the main reason why geology prefers to stick to the relatively easy idea of the magnetic pole shifts and prefers to dismiss the rest.
The truth is that the Earth’s history is astoundingly more complicated than ever thought and we have found a narrow corridor into this mystery hole.
I didn’t realize there are so many variables involved. This indeed makes it very complex.
To make it maybe even more complex, you could take a look at this paper by Patrick Moore: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330383444_The_Positive_Impact_of_Human_CO_Emissions_on_the_Survival_of_Life_on_Earth_Title_The_Positive_Impact_of_Human_CO_2_Emissions_on_the_Survival_of_Life_on_Earth_Format_Electronic_book_Publisher
He explains that CO2 is essential for all life on our planet and that the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has been declining since the last 600 million years. When it comes under a certain level, it would make life on earth as we know it impossible. Such an irony 🙂
If you look at figure 1 or figure 2, you can see this decline and you can also see that the level of CO2 remained relatively very stable within the last 400.000 years. At page 19 he argues that “massive volcanism on a scale not seen for more than 200 million years would be required to bring about a reversal in the long-term CO2 trend that has now been achieved by human CO2 emissions. There is no doubt the Earth’s interior has cooled substantially over its roughly 4.6-billion-year existence. This makes massive volcanism an ever-decreasing likelihood. There is no other plausible natural mechanism to release carbon to the global atmosphere in the form of CO2.”
So even if we will understand ECD’s fully, we still would not know if the level of atmospheric CO2 would remain as stable as in the last 400 to 900 kyears. Or if volcanic activity would completely change the situation.
The variables that you are currently listing are all internal variations of the earth.
Did you also look for causes in the solar system other than eccentricity?
What do you think for instance of the proposal of 2 suns in our solar system, as proposed in this documentary about the Yuga cycles? Could this be true?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0
Interesting suggestion. Eccentricity however can be regarded as an external variable because it is caused by interaction of Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn with the Earth. The Earth’s expansion or growth is also depending of an unknown outer source.
Most solar systems are binary systems (two stars that revolve around each other). It is crystal clear that the Sun is missing a “partner” sun because there’s too much angular momentum missing. The missing angular momentum cannot be explain from the rotating planets around the Sun alone, it can only be explained when a second sun is introduced. This might be a brown dwarf, which can be hard to find. And maybe is this brown dwarf the 9th planet which has been discovered mathematically by Batygin&Brown.
This quote comes from The Holy Science which was written long before Milankovitch discovered his cycles and even long before Pluto was discovered:
One could debate about the length of the cycles 24ky or 26 ky and perhaps the Yugas as (re)presented by Yukteswar have to be adjusted a little bit from 24ky to 26 ky.
Thank you for the information.
I understand eccentricity is an external variable.
Maybe this is also interesting to look at: https://www.ditrianum.org/about.htm
It argues that certain positions of the planets and the resulting electromagnetic waves cause earthquakes when there is enough stress between vault lines. Maybe this is even a variable for ECD’s as well? So the gravitational oscillations could build up stress on the crust, while the electromagnetic waves from space initiate and push the actual ECD movement.
It could well be cause by both variables don’t you think?
Here is a quote of the article:
“Contrary to what many people assume, we do not believe that gravity is responsible for larger earthquakes at the time of critical planetary and lunar geometry. Rather, we believe that electromagnetic waves affect Earth’s crust on an atomic level causing specific frequencies to be amplified, which ultimately results in the deformation of the geological formations where stress is highest.”
I am personally quite interested in ancient Egyptian religion and I think that a partner of the Sun was known back then. I think this was the goddess Hathor, who was known as the Distant Goddess. I also think planet 9 was known until around 300 BC and that this planet was called Apophis, who caused chaos and earthquakes. It is interesting to look at the mentioned timeline of Egyptian texts about Apophis.
https://www.ancient.eu/Hathor/
https://www.ancient.eu/Apophis/
Maybe it would be an idea to add the movements of the 2 suns to the equation and possibly also the movement of this system around another point in space?
Just like the rotational speed of the earth changes during a 1-year orbit around the sun because of eccentricity, I suspect that the rotational speed of the earth can also vary in larger amounts, because of other movements that take much more time.
A much slower rotating earth would have larger equatorial bulges, and this could also cause the needed force to create the ECD.
Possibly the rotational speed was much lower during ECD’s, and increased again in the recuperation periods. What do you think?
Could this be another major variable?
Yes, Kenneth, as I commented here in March, we are part of a binary system, and our Sun is currently just past aphelion, hence with a slow angular velocity (of the precession of equinoxes) one extrapolates the great year to be 26k, but catering for an elliptic orbit it’s actually 24k (in 6k years there will be a fast angular velocity and one would extrapolate the great year to be 22k).
The identity of our second sun is not too difficult to find out (has been known for millennia), but it is covered up to avoid people quickly deducing the 12k yin/yang lifecycle (and our fate as yet another thin black layer in the geological strata).
Even the conspiracy forums are beginning to deduce this: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4147947/pg1
Zod, when you are talking of aphelion of the Sun, can it be that this is what happened in December 2012?
I did see very bright white flashes, that lit up the full sky during sunset in that month.
Maybe this was caused by a special alignment of the two suns and perhaps the galactic center. What do you think?
I never saw this again after that month and had not seen it before either.
In this basic scientific article no special alignment can be found, but the position of the second sun is left out.
http://multiverse.ssl.berkeley.edu/Calendar-in-the-Sky/Articles/The-Great-Galactic-Alignment-of-2012
Kenneth, there would appear to be no cause for anything special to occur simply due to a geometric coincidence, i.e. both Suns simultaneously crossing the galactic plane (if their orbit is perfectly centred across it).
That crossing (‘nibiru’?) is likely to be a magnetic null/neutral polarisation, and it is only as the solar system steadily ventures further past it into a field of increasing strength (and reverse polarity) that we would begin to observe any subtle or not-so-subtle side-effects, e.g. an accelerating response of the Earth’s poles.
Such antagonism may affect the Earth’s magnetosphere (and weather, climate, etc) in non-obvious ways, and so may increase exotic varieties of electrical storms.
The key point is that The Maya had a multi-millennial calendar, which was probably linked in some way to the Great Year and a need to predict the beginning of the period in which the next inversion would occur.
Even the year 2000 in our calendar is supposed to mark the end of the age of Pisces (Christianity), and the beginning of the age of Aquarius (the coming of the Son of Man) and the pouring out of his pitcher (cataclysm).
Thank you. It could also be an alignment of the 2 Suns and the Earth, causing a phenomenon that can be compared with a solar eclipse by the moon.
Take a look at intermediate axis theorem.
Here’s an introductory video on the effect: https://youtu.be/1VPfZ_XzisU
Interesting, Alan. Thank you, mate! The Dzhanibekov Effect could explain partially the strange behavior of the crust once in while. The mass of the crust is not evenly distributed as well.
Cheers, Mario
How do you account for ancient maps of anartica showing the exact geography without ice?
Looks like the anthropologists are starting to shift. They seem to not want to let go of the “Out of Africa” theory quite yet. Your theory on massive animals not going extinct in Africa to me seems more likely to allow for remains of ancient human ancestors to have survived in greater numbers. This shift reminds me of how things went with the Millikan oil drop experiment:
“The finding also adds to the already compelling body of evidence that there were multiple migrations of modern humans out of Africa, stretching back over hundreds of thousands of years. Modern humans were thought to have evolved in Africa after the departure of Neanderthals and Denisovans, and to have remained on the continent until their well-known out-of-Africa diaspora 60,000 years ago. But recently, fossil evidence has indicated otherwise: A human jawbone in Israel, reported last year to date back to 180,000 years ago, and a skull fragment in Greece that’s even older, indicate earlier human migrations.”
https://www.quantamagazine.org/fossil-dna-reveals-new-twists-in-modern-human-origins-20190829/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
The analogy to the Oil Drop Experiment goes back to Richard Feynman’s Caltech Commencement speech; it is well worth the read and is applicable to, not only the scientific method, but many aspects of human behavior in business and academia: http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm
Here’s the relevant quote:
“We have learned a lot from experience about how to handle some of the ways we fool ourselves. One example: Millikan measured the charge on an electron by an experiment with falling oil drops and got an answer which we now know not to be quite right. It’s a little bit off, because he had the incorrect value for the viscosity of air. It’s interesting to look at the history of measurements of the charge of the electron, after Millikan. If you plot them as a function of time, you find that one is a little bigger than Millikan’s, and the next one’s a little bit bigger than that, and the next one’s a little bit bigger than that, until finally they settle down to a number which is higher.
Why didn’t they discover that the new number was higher right away? It’s a thing that scientists are ashamed of—this history—because it’s apparent that people did things like this: When they got a number that was too high above Millikan’s, they thought something must be wrong—and they would look for and find a reason why something might be wrong. When they got a number closer to Millikan’s value they didn’t look so hard. And so they eliminated the numbers that were too far off, and did other things like that. We’ve learned those tricks nowadays, and now we don’t have that kind of a disease.
But this long history of learning how to not fool ourselves—of having utter scientific integrity—is, I’m sorry to say, something that we haven’t specifically included in any particular course that I know of. We just hope you’ve caught on by osmosis.”
Thanks for posting the links and your interesting association with the oil drop experiment, Alan.
Looks like another megalithic site has been unearthed: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/biblical-bombshell-archaeologists-discover-origins-19427757
Interesting news. Thank you for posting this, Alan.
“As a climate scientist, to “create” an icecap on Greenland by playing with computer models with the assumption this island has never been on the geographic pole requires the strangest, most unscientific models you can imagine. Climate science has nothing to do with real science – it is a pseudoscience that mostly serves the agendas of politicians. Mainstream scientists do not dare to oppose this agenda and are afraid to lose their funding.”
In your opinion your discoveries will be accepted after a few decades. Couldn’t this go a bit quicker than that?
I think that the results are very convincing as you found almost 1 on 1 matching data. Scientists will easily accept your research when they take a good look.
What does not help I think is that your articles are full of speculations about false agenda’s and corruption. Maybe that is true but can you prove that with mathematics? I experienced this is a big turn-off for interested researchers.
Are claims like the one above really needed to clarify what you discovered?
Your research is in a way a gift from heaven as you choose a very strong idea and started to work on that. And the results that you got were very strong because of the very close matches. On top of this you had access to all the needed data and the necessary software to analyse all this data and perform highly CPU intense calculations. Hapgood wasn’t so lucky. Did this make him a pseudo-scientist? Probably most people back then thought so.
How many scientists are lucky enough to get such strong results as you did? Most scientists need to put in a lot of assumptions to get results and the results are mostly debatable and are only simulating reality. That is just another way of doing research but that doesn’t mean it’s pseudo science. Neither can it be proven that all these researchers are working for a political agenda. Maybe some, but probably not all.
If I would be a scientist and I would read the articles on your website I would probably leave the website quite soon and that is a pity unless you would like your research to be accepted only after decades, while it could be accepted much quicker.
For an accepted theory to have an effect on the world we live in will take decades, but in my opinion the sooner your theory gets accepted the better.
It takes some time to watch our tone after having made such big discoveries. I am not alone in this research anymore, there is now a team that helps me in this research and to write not only on the website but also the book. The book will not use harsh language on mainstream science. In our book we describe how the current scientific process works and once chosen the wrong route, how difficult it is to change course.
Yes, we are aware of the fact that we speak less harsh language about mainstream science. I am pointed at this many times and I will take your advice at heart.
Large scientific discoveries such as this takes at least a few decades to get accepted. The paradigm shift that people have to make in their head and ideas is simply too big to do this on a short term. Even the smartest people are conditioned at a young age. When new generations of brilliant scientists join our research this will change slowly. In the mean time we just go on with our work and keep adding new findings to our long list.
That’s brilliant Mario. Keep up the good work!
Hi Mario
What do you think about this 2018 paper where it is explained the root cause of registered polar motion (0,1m/year aprox)?
The only problem regarding that registered motion of geographic pole exposed in this paper is the following : it says that it is going along the longitute 74º W butyou demonstrated 47,1º W…
Do you have any explanation? Can the 74ºW direction be a short term one and the 47,1º a more long term direction?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327728910_What_drives_20th_century_polar_motion
Thanks for posting the interesting research. The long-term movements that we have identified along the 47.1W line are over a period of 400 kyears. Short-term movements may go in every direction, similar as the magnetic pole does. When the crust starts to break loose we expect it will move along a rough path in the direction of Siberia. During this process it can make short-term moves in all directions, but the long-term moves will most probably be along the already the well-known path.
We are pretty sure about this path because we have been tracking the path of the Hawaiian island chain, which goes a long way in the same direction, and then suddenly makes a turn at 32,8N°, 172,6E. It’s hard to tell if we have reached this turning point, which is always possible but unlikely.
There are two other things I’ve noticed regarding the Pyramids and Stonehenge. The “why”, I have no idea, but I stumbled onto these research articles from reputable sources regarding the topic of “acoustic cloaking”. These certainly are not to take credit from any of the existing observations, but perhaps the outer rings of Stonehenge had protective purposes as well.
https://pratt.duke.edu/about/news/acoustic-cloaking-device-hides-objects-sound
and
https://physicsworld.com/a/invisibility-cloak-for-water-waves/
PS. I’ll be back to crunching numbers soon enough and providing new tools. I’m overwhelmed right now on an engineering project.
Good work, Alan. That is amazingly interesting and something we can add to the research. Thanks mate!
Cheers, Mario
Such an amazing discovery on the Hawaiian islands !
Congratulations. I am happy to see this new discovery.
Hi Mario!
I’m totally amazed by your work. I even find it at bit “spooky” how well it fits with various other and some adjacent topics I’ve been studying since the fall of 2018.
Concerning ECD my first experience of the idea came through “The Adam and Eve Story” by Chan Thomas. I Think he was inspired by Hapgood and he adressed some new concepts in comparison to Hapgood. I’m currently Reading Hapgoods “Maps of the ancient sea kings” and “Atlantis beneath the ice” by Rand och Rose Flem-Ath. I myself am a hydrologist and I have ph d i ecology and I’m very mathematically oriented in my education and to some extent in my current occupation. I consider myself having an open mind, but I’m also a critical reader always checking and testing what is being said. In my opinion all the mentioned book contain information valuble to your work even if they in some other aspects have to be considered highly speculative.
Specifically Thomas elaborates on possible mechanisms involved in ECD. He suggests that the liquid magma below the crust is stabilised by magnetic influence (refering to Hannes Alfvén).When the strength of the Earth magnetic field comes below a certain level the crust more or less detaches and floats free. I Think both Hapgood and Thomas suggest that this will initiate cataclyms, but I don’t agree there. Instead I suggest that the cataclysm orccurs when the Earth magnetic field regains its strength. What will happen initially is only that the crust and core slowly will come out of sync in their rotation. The when the magnetic field regains strength the crust and core are forced together. At this Point these are mere hypothesis and speculation on my side, but I consider these aspects to be highly interesting to investigate further.
I’ll get back to you on a later occassion on some of the other subjects I’ve been studying recently and that in ways relate to your findings.
Thank you, Magnus. Our data is clearly pointing to an unequal deformation of the crust. Thomas and Hapgood suggested that the whole crust evenly displaced, but that is not what our data suggests. Antarctica, and the southern spin axis, is fairly stable while the northern spin axis migrated over a large distance. That means massive deformation of the crust in some areas and less deformation in other areas. Interesting to see you later!
Do you know this study concerning the possible alignment of the Mayan monuments with Magnetic North? They would have modified the alignment of the monuments with respect to the magnetic north pole changes. Your theory of alignment with the displaced north poles is very interesting but has a disadvantage, it is the huge lapse of time between two changes in the geographical North Pole.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/maya/maya-centers.pdf
The answer to your question is: NO. The magnetic pole has not been anywhere close to the orientation of most of the Mayan monuments. You can read our paper on this topic here: https://mariobuildreps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/On-the-Orientation-of-Latin-American-Pyramids-and-Temples-V2.pdf
Can’t wait for your book to come out. I have always felt that the only sound explanation for the existence of the North American ice sheets in such an anomalous location is a shifting of the crust, per Hapgood, or an actual pole shift, per H.A. Brown and others. You are on the right track, sir! One suggestion for your graphics would be to color code the sight lines for each separate event so as to distinguish the coordinates.
I noticed something interesting this morning, which is not related directly to data and math, but an interesting coincidence. We know that maps are often produced from collections of “source maps”. This is one area that Graham Hancock pursues to justify his alternative historical theories, which I believe are fairly compelling. My concern with Hancock is that he tries to attach emotional and spiritual meaning to his evidence. He takes good evidence, and then hurts his scientific credibility at the same time. There’s a book by Dava Sbel called “Longitude”; they made an excellent movie by the same name that you can watch freely on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvt48S9l4w
In short, and it’s not spoiling the movie or book if you’re going to watch it: we were not able to accurately determine longitude for navigation until the late 18th century. Reliable timekeeping was a real challenge, not only on land, but the gyroscopic forces applied to ships at sea made timekeeping devices that were accurate on land incredibly inaccurate. Latitude was fairly simple.
To help keep me motivated, I purchased a reproduction of the Ortellius world map from 1570. Based on what Graham Hancock says about source maps, this was likely produced by a collection of older source maps. Antactica supposedly wasn’t discovered until 1839, yet it appears clearly on this and many other maps from the period. The Baja California Peninsula is also clearly depicted in this and other maps from around that time.
I spent the last hour staring at it after it arrived, and the reason that I’m posting this comment is that some things immediately stood out to me: the cartographer opted to have the zero degree meridian pass through Greenland. This is my own theory on this: had the source maps been from before our known history and Greenland depicted at the North Pole, the easiest land mass transition for the cartographer would likely be to move it due south, as transforming scale grid would be linear with the parallels. The other thing I noticed is there is land mass depicted north of what I believe to be the 76 degree latitude line that has some similarities with the features of the land to the south of the 76 degree latitude line. If an ancient map depicted Greenland at the North Pole (or was drawn in a way that didn’t depict a pole), I could see a very real possibility that the cartographer may have transferred the land following the meridians that crossed the historical pole, placing them north of the 76 degree parallel, not having realized that the pole was at what is 76 degrees today and the land masses were already depicted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Ortelius#/media/File:OrteliusWorldMap1570.jpg
Hi Alan, you are right about the meridian on the Ortellius world map. The meridian seems to run over the Azore and over Cape Verde, both Portugese colonies. And indeed passes this meridian also over Greenland. There are also maps with the meridian running over Tenerife, that was used by the Dutch. It could be well possible that this came from earlier maps of the world that are lost or maybe hidden in the Vatican. Who knows.
Hancock has done some good research but he is my opinion too irrational in many of his views. He chooses a stance on merely emotions and feelings and that is not very scientific. Very interesting this history of longitude. I watched and scanned the movie, and I must say I didn’t know that accurate longitude was only so recently established.
The intention of the computations that I’m doing is as an intermediate step for data validation. I want to be very clear to anyone else reading these comments that I do not have strong certainty in the specific accuracy of my own computations and that the discrepancies may be caused by other factors. I am hopeful that when I improve the resolution of my results that they will trend towards Mario’s.
I am aware of a handful of factors that could have introduced error in my own results. For one, roads or boundaries that run approximately north/south, but meander outside of a couple degrees off from
Cardinal directions would have those portions counted. If there are more of these east of your -47.1 longitude, then it could increase the density east of your coordinate. Also, magnetic north has moved around quite a bit. Periods of significant magnetically oriented modern construction could be the cause of my discrepancy.
Hi Alan, it’s a pleasure to see that you understand what you are doing. It’s quite a quest to filter out the rubbish. You will probably find a main node somewhere between -40 and -60 longitude, and not necessarily at the same longitude. Please keep me informed about your progress.
Cheers, Mario
I’m confused on why Pompeii (Temples) is believed to be from 210-225,000 years old. Certainly this is a Roman settlement, I don’t think there are any doubts that volcanic ash buried the city, so the dating of the site can’t be based on depth. What’s the thought?
Hi Darren, Pompeii age is not a believe. The probability that Pompeii’s temples are very ancient and relates to one of the poles is 80%. Pompeii is (re)built on very ancient foundations and at a certain moment in time it was buried by volcanic ash. To think that we can date the moment of the disaster at a specific day is ridiculous, unscientific, and arrogant. It is said that Pompeii was buried under 4 to 6 meters of ash. Really? From only one eruption? Who believes that?
I stumbled onto this article while going down a hole researching the nuclear reactor incidents. I thought the third party information could help enforce your argument even more.
https://earthobservatory.sg/blog/how-did-2011-tohoku-earthquake-change-earth%E2%80%99s-rotation
“The earthquake had effects on a global scale. Seismic waves caused icebergs to break off in Antarctica, water in Norwegian fjords to splash back and forth, and wreckage from the tsunami washed up along the North American coastline. Another global consequence? The quake shortened Earth’s day by 1.8 microseconds (µs) and shifted its figure axis by 17 centimetres (cm).
Just to clear things up, our planet wasn’t knocked off its axis by the quake. Instead, the earthquake redistributed Earth’s mass, thus moved the figure axis, around which the world’s mass is balanced. The figure axis is about 10 metres from the north-south axis. In the 2011 earthquake, a huge chunk of the Pacific plate descended beneath the Eurasian plate, so the earth’s mass moved around.”
Thank you for your input and for posting the link to this article, Alan. Very interesting to learn more about this research. Our research has shown that earthquakes and eruptions have increased over the last 120 resp. 200 years. That trend keeps increasing over the next few millenniums until the crust become unstable, which means the end of our civilization. The very heavy earthquakes that we have seen over the last 100 years are small ones compared to the ones that are still to come.
How is your research doing?
Cheers.
I have computed all of the crossing points for all structures that are charted. I had to eliminate those with current cardinal directions to help visualize the data (for instance, if I included segments facing due North, that data would overshadow anything else as a single segment oriented due north would be included in the sum of all crossings of all points to the north and south of that point). After doing this, The top 1/10th of 1% (0.1%) of all intersection counts ALL fall at two locations: near Pole II with the center of the cluster at 76N / 28W, and at 75S / 152.4E (distance of around 10,750+/- nautical miles, or within 1 degree of 180 degrees offset). This makes sense as intuition tells me that if two points fall on the same great circle that there should be an intersection at 180 degrees from the intersection of great circles as well. EVERY point in the top 2-3% of intersections by quantity fall within those areas. What I mean by percent is that the location with the most intersecting sides of structures has 20,643,724 intersections. The location with the fewest greater than zero has 3,544 intersections. The top 0.1% is (20,643,724 – 3,544) / 1,000. The top 3% threshold is (max – min) / (97/100) or 20,024,518 intersections. This is computed with a resolution of 0.1 degree longitude and 1 degree latitude and as a side-effect of eliminating N/S oriented structures, things that might be on the same meridian would also be eliminated from the counts.
I don’t know how to compute the statistical significance of this, but when rendering the data, I get a splotch a little bit east of where you say Pole II is, and it grows as I increase the threshold for rendering until a little bit of data starts to show up over 72 N / 65.2 E and 71S / 115 W. By that time, the region over eastern Greenland covers an area from 60N to 82N. Those locations may either be the “back side” of a meridian, but, more likely, are the shadows of historical dense locations with E/W headings that intersect.
I need to look at my counts as a histogram to help sort out distribution. I have not computed the median and I suspect the distribution is highly skewed based on my StdDev calculation and the very small amount of area covered by that upper 3%. I thought that I might be looking at Pareto distribution as well, but I’m not seeing that yet either. I have an intense hangover this morning and after this headache clears the correct way to look at the data may come to me.
The other concern I have is whether there is something else that I’m not seeing that could naturally make these intersections occur over Greenland — something with the way we chart latitude/longitude, the distribution of points over the globe, et cetera. As we peel away these layers, I think the answers will come to us.
Total intersections (not including segments that have a cardinal heading north or south): 109,990,385,477,730
Mean at resolution: 16,973,824.9
StdDev: 9,644,654,737
Eliminating those with no intersections:
Mean: 17,068,650.8
StdDev: 9,647,674,993.6
Hi Alan, thank you for your interesting input. You have a crazy amount of intersections! You are correct to filter out the cardinally oriented structures, this causes a lot of noise. Our research has shown that EVERY single structure in the database has to be reviewed very critical. This has not the goal to cherry pick, but to make sure that ALL structures in the database are undoubtedly VERY ancient. I suspect that in your data a lot of structures swarm around from all sorts of eras, maybe polluting a clear view.
I’d like to thank you for the efforts you have put in writing this site. I’m hoping to check out the same high-grade content from you in the future as well. In fact, your creative writing abilities have encouraged me to get my very own website now 😉
Data has started dripping out of my still that I’ve spent my spare time in the last three months building and refining. There are numerous cities in eastern Europe, Russia, along the coastlines of countries like Norway that are oriented towards Pole II. Many, many older north American cities are also oriented towards Pole II. St. Louis was interesting in that it seems to have one part of the city cardinally oriented towards both pole II while the other part of the city is oriented towards pole IV. The burial mounds in the vicinity of St. Louis are believed to be well over 10,000 years old. Winnipeg Canada is also oriented towards Pole II.
The European settlers of North American arrived to what amounts to abandoned civilizations. With the estimates of 90-96% of the 50-100 million natives having died off from disease in a period of years before many of the early settlers arrived. Fields were already sowed and the Europeans began farming them. And there were people here before those that we call the Indians. It seems reasonable that fields that became cities maintained their orientations.
Hi Alan, when it comes to matches between orientations and one of the poles, there is always the possibility that this is a product of coincidence. You must make probability calculations to be sure you are right in your propositions. We can always help you with that.
This is why I’m doing this analysis and hope to provide you with the results of my calculations. I wanted to independently verify your results and verify that structures haven’t been cherry-picked. I have some unique visualizations that I had hoped to have done by today, but I found a computational error that I corrected. It takes 60 hours to recompute all 6,500,000,000+ data points that I’m using. Most others’ theories have been easy to refute, and quickly. I seem to be finding increasingly more data that matches your observations. In the first set of random data that I pulled, the entire northeast region of Mexico City showed up, which parallels Teotihuacan.
I’m a software developer by profession (business by education) and work as a consultant solving companies’ database performance problems, especially for high volume, high speed transaction and analysis systems. I spent years writing custom GIS software as well for doing vessel tracking, and have written a flight planning package to optimize routing based on weather systems, wind, with compensation for magnetic declination and navigation beacon offsets (the VORs often have error as magnetic North shifts) so the data and geospatial aspects of this falls squarely within my skillset. The statistical stuff is limited to my enjoyment of Jordan Ellenberg’s book, “How Not to Be Wrong,” but my skills in that area are not nearly as refined as they are when it comes to doing the raw computations.
Without touching on your theory of the growing earth, a thought I’ve had about a shifting rotational axis is rooted in gyroscopic procession and mass shift. If there was a large accumulation of ice at the North Pole that melted, it seems that the shift of mass would have some affect on the rotation.
Very interesting, Alan. We are happy you are trying to verify what we have done and are looking forward to your results.
Hi, again
I previously wrote that the North Pole moved during the ice age because the Earth was expanding.
2018.6.10
Is your current idea aware of global expansion?
Hudson Bay has gravity anomalies. Isn’t it because the Hudson Bay was once at the North Pole?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%8F%E3%83%89%E3%82%BD%E3%83%B3%E6%B9%BE#/media/File:PGR_Paulson2007_Rate_of_Lithospheric_Uplift_due_to_post-glacial_rebound.png
Antarctica also has gravity anomalies.
Hi JA7TDO, yes, we are aware of global expansion. You can read our article on this topic here: https://mariobuildreps.com/growing-earth-model/
Interesting idea. I understand your proposal that if Antarctica has a gravity anomaly, and since it is the South Pole, that the other anomaly could be another former pole. But why is this gravity anomaly then not present at the current North pole? But somewhere at an arbitrary location? We will take a deeper look at what you propose. It is always interesting to take notion of other ideas.
Hi,
I have several theories for expansion Earth model.
It is the electrical activity of the earth, starting from the phase transition of olivine in the mantle.
The phase transition of olivine within the earth increases the volume. At the same time, a cavity develops at the center of the earth. A large amount of electrons are emitted from the phase-transformed olivine. Electrons generate magnetic fields and gravity by rotating at the earth’s rotation.
Please read my article.
https://etherealmatters.org/eugeology
The movement of the North Pole you found is a very important fact for Earth expansion model.
Hi JA7TDO, I read your article which is very interesting. Ancient people had the same brains and hands as we have today, so there is no reason to assume they were less capable than we are.
It is often called the “expansion model” but we prefer to call it the “growing model”. The expansion model is popular among people who love fantasy stories of the hollow earth. It is very difficult for many people to separate facts and fiction, because they can be very close to each other, but are absolutely two different domains.
There is overwhelming proof that the crust has expanded (isochrons ocean floor of both Atlantic and Pacific, i.e., Pangaea was wrapped around the entire globe), and there is also overwhelming proof that gravity has increased. That model might conflict with the idea that a cavity has developed in the core. When the earth was only 50% of its current radius, gravitaty was most likely only 25%. That explains why animals of massive size could exist on earth and even animals like Pterosaurs could fly. On the other hand, it could still be possible that a cavity indeed grows in the core but that growth and gravity do not develop symmetrical. For example, when the earth was 50% of its current size and that gravity was around 30% of what it is today. In that case there could indeed a cavity of significant size be present in the core today.
Sir, in order to completely understand earth expansion. i think you need to understand more about hollow earth. there are 1000’s of pilots. just start asking those who have been trans Atlantic for 30-40 years and those retired pilots whom flew many years ago. there is a reason why there is a perfect circle pilots adhere to when flying over the north pole. may be the same for the south pole, but i have seen the airline schedules for 55 years. and the early flight schedules showed clearly an area you are not allowed to fly thru. that area is a perfect circle! those pilots whom will tell you what they have seen. will also tell you they saw the hole. but we dont talk about it!
Amazing! An eye opener! Just wondering whether the results remain the same with other map projections (Gall Peters, winkel tripel etc)? Or is it irrelevant to your method?
Thank you for your comment, Fida. Our method is independent of the map projection, it uses True North (the spin axis) as the only reference.
Projections are not a problem, what is a problem is that within a civilization, the Olmecs for example, they would orient their first temple (at Izapa) according to a specific mountain and the 260 day cycle for the sun rising overhead at 115 degrees latitude. Then, since the calendar worked so well they would copy that orientation across their civilization. Finally after the “capital” had moved a few times that orientation would be replaced by a new one. All the copied orientations would provide data that looks just like this. So instead of 4 ages of man you could have four sets of cultures. The results would be indistinguishable. Not saying the data is wrong I just would be careful of the root cause explanation and would want to sift out sites that had exactly the same orientation at the same time.
You always have to be careful when interpreting data, John. Especially when personal ideas are introduced instead of universal mathematics. That is why we do not interpret anything but let mathematics do the work. It is a fact that 91% of the 550 ancient structures that we measured on the Western hemisphere are positively oriented. It is no personal favor, nor are they cherry picked to serve a certain agenda, or to prove an arbitrary preset agenda. It is none of these. These structures are spread over a latitudinal distance of 6,300 kilometers (3,908 miles). This distribution has nothing to do with a certain mountain.
The same pattern, but in the other orientational direction, is present on the Eastern hemisphere. Negative orientation occurs 3 times as much as positive orientation. The rest is cardinally oriented to our current wind directions. If that pattern would be just the result of coincidence there is (in a large dataset) 0% for that pattern to occur coincidentally.
That the Olmecs would orient their structures to a mountain is just a proposal, an interpretation, not a fact. These sorts of interpretations are what most often goes wrong in most research that is based on personal favors, learned paradigms, and unconscious agendas. These unscientific ideas have confused the people already for too long.
Sifting out certain data is then done to serve a personal flavor. You must have a very good reason to prefer personal ideas over universe mathematics, there is probably none. However, what we have done is the following; uniformely oriented cities like Teotihuacan (>50 structures), Pikillaqta (>180), Chan-Chan, and many more are treated as ONE. If we would treat these cities as separate building and count them one by one they would be overrepresented in the data.
At some point Greenland had to become a warmer place. When the seafarer from Scandinavian found this “greenland” they named it because they found it was all green and easy to feed their animals and to grow plants. How would this fit in? You say that the south Pole is stable at Antarctica but haven’t it left Antarctica now?
Hi Lasse, you confuse the magnetic pole with the geographic pole. The magnetic pole is indeed no longer on the Antarctic continent. The spins axis is still there.
I understood that the stories of “Greenland” as being known to have been started by Erik the Red in a marketing effort to attract settlers.
That might be. But the tales in greenland tell us about the time when it was really a green island.
I like it.
I’ve been wondering about the dolmens. I have a hunch that they may have been emergency survival shelters to shelter from hostile sun rays, or possibly hail stones. Open sided to shelter a herder and flock or people.
Is there a commonality of direction of the “open” side of the dolmens in relation to what would have been the orientation of the sun’s path? Are there more than one orientation of open-side?
How much to build one in my back yard?
Georgia guide stones lead me to believe that this is being kept a secret by a selection of modern population.
Thank you so very much. Diamond sent me.
Thank you for your comment, Russel. We can only speculate what purpose dolmens were used for. Our research to dolmens shows that little over 80% of the dolmens’ entrances were oriented to the south within a range of 90° (+45/-45). But they are oriented in such a way that their orientation correlates with the very ancient Pole VI, and that could mean they are between 410 and 440 ky old. In that case were their openings oriented to a very ancient sunset. It could be true they were used as very solid shelters for certain kinds of cataclysms. That could explain why such massive stones were used. The time period of Pole VI correlates with the stories as told in the Sumerian tablets, i.e., the Anunnaki coming to earth. Maybe were they used to shelter for all sorts of threats, but that is speculative.
The dolmens are for charging your electrical body, such as chackras and meridians as explained in traditional Chinese medicine. I have studied this fenomina for over 20 years. As longer you are from the poles the bigger you have to build the dolman to get the same result. Those dolmans I don’t recommend to enter is those close to electrical wiring. So the dolmans are for healing your body.
Mario – Super work. Crustal displacement would certainly lead to asymmetries in various natural records. The alignment of ancient structures is quite compelling, and it makes me wonder how asymmetries would be reflected in other data sets. Using diatoms as a proxy for global temperature assumes two things – their proliferation varies with temperature, and your favorite, the poles are fixed. But crustal displacement would leave a trail of asymmetric effects on diatom deposits too. Has anyone tried looking at the data starting with the assumption of crustal displacement to see if the data fits? Similarly, we should expect to see older and deeper ice deposits in places that have been closer to the poles for longer periods. And would we also expect the accumulation of ice in places like the Kolyma Mountains that have moved northward? Looking forward to the book!
Thank you for your comment, Erich. That is indeed what we would expect to see in natural records like diatoms. As far as I know, there is no dataset available yet. The climate in Russia is changed dramatically over the last 130,000 alone. Before that time, between 350,000 and 130,000 (that is what we know for sure) was the climate of Russia moderate (Pole II, III, and IV) to even tropical (Pole V). Siberia and all the mountain ranges that surround Siberia have seen extreme climatic changes when the pole moved from V to I over the last 350,000 years.
Dear Mario, I have been following with grate intrigue over many years the thoughts and evidence put forward by two people in particular, that of Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock, and one day by chance during a seminar, Equinox weekend in Little Rock, Arkansas, 2018, hosted by both Randall & Graham an audience member asked if either of them had reviewed any of your work, both stated no !, and like myself had never heard of you, since then I have studied with so much interest everything that you have put out there, and all I can say is WOW, you have blown my mind 😊,
My question is have either Randall or Graham since made contact with you,
Kindest Regards and thank you so very much for putting your case forward on all the subjects you have thus far researched, and I wait with bated breath for your next fascinating journey into our past.
Thank you for your comment, Steven. No, Randall Carlson nor Graham Hancock have contacted me to have a chat. Note that our work is one of the most controversial ones that is published over the last decennia. Some people are even scared of the idea. I don’t know if that counts for Randall or Graham. Our work might contradict their ideas or with the works that are already published in books and on video presentations. The Younger Dryas Hypothesis, for example, is a good example. If you read our views on this topic you will understand there is (in our view) not a single basis for the slightest correctness of this hypothesis. The ideas are in our view based on too little research. I don’t know how they feel about that. If anyone can debunk our philosophy, that is purely based on data, I would be glad to hear that. We (our small team) have no attachments to anyone and we are open-minded to all people. I am always open to contact.
Mario,
Very interesting site. Thanks for all the work! I was at Pumapunku last October and discovered that recent archeological excavations have now uncovered the original foundation which was covered by a 10-15 foot deep layer of mud. The good news is that most of the original foundation is still intact — it was ironically protected from looting by the same mud flow that destroyed the site. I have been in contact with the UC Berkeley archeologist who worked on this excavation. His name is Alexei Vranich. He posted a paper in which he gives the alignment of the Akapana (2 degrees 46 minutes east of north). However he did not publish the alignment for Pumapunku. Why not? My best guess is because the angle was totally anomalous. He couldn’t fit it into his theoretical understanding so he dropped it. Sound familiar? I asked him to share it with me — but so far have not heard back from him. If you have determined the alignment of Pumapunku I’d be very appreciative if you’d share the data. I want to triangulate three sites (Teotihuacan, Pumapunku, and another site in Egypt, still to be determined. Maybe they will point to the old north pole…?
I am impressed by your mathematical approach. However, I disagree with you on a couple of points. Hapgood originally thought like you that the crustal shift was very slow. However, later he became more open to the possibility of a sudden shift. As you know, he abandoned the theory that the ice buildup at the poles caused a centripetal shift toward the equator. Apparently when he crunched the numbers he found that the mass of ice is not nearly enough to shift the crust.
On my recent trip to Peru/Bolivia I observed almost everywhere the old terracing built by the pre-Incas for food production. The terraces reach up at least 2,000 feet above lake Titicaca. According to one report the terracing extends to the snow line on Mt Illimani. They have not eroded away because there is little rain in the Altiplano. Today the terraces are not used — because they are much too high for food growing. This of course means that some event lifted up the Andes in a very short time frame. Darwin concluded – from his field work during the voyage of the Beagle — that the Andes had been raised up 8,000 feet. He was a uniformitarian and believed it had been gradual. But Darwin never made it up to the Altiplano. He never saw the terracing. I believe the sudden uplift was 2500-3000 feet at one fell swoop. But now I’m running on…enough.
The lift and fall of landmass is one of the aspects that appears to have been left out so far.
It seems to be quite feasible, but of course research has to prove this.
Further understanding of this aspect is on my wish-list too.
Some inspiration on this.
https://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://www.nemokennislink.nl/publicaties/atlantis-uit-het-verre-verleden-ontdekt/&prev=search
I have only one small question, that is a big BUT for me. There are numerous texts from ancient China and on the other side of the world where they speak of the sun standing still for several days and on the opposite side of the world where they write about several days of darkness. This can only mean that the earth stopped or slowed down its rotation. The mechanism for this must be something other than the Milankovitch cycles. If you accept the possibility of the truth in these stories, what would cause this to happen in your opinion?
Your work is extraordinary and beautiful and look forward to reading your book
Thank you for your comment, Karen. There is a saying: the day that the world stood still. But why should we take that literally? Texts are often metaphors. Ancient texts often contain metaphors more than we are used to today.
Another point is that a miraculous force that would make the earth stop spinning and then make it start to spin again or make it spinning in another direction would be immense and unknown. Magnetic activity is millions of times too weak to cause such an event, even if the magnetic field would increase immensely due to increased solar activity, micro novas or other sorts of outbursts.
There are many speculators on the internet who mislead people, and also speculators with a sauce of scientific taste, but most are just speculating without sufficient data.
True….. thank you ☆
Mario,
I agree with you that the CME theory is, by its nature, a contentious one.
The researchers who express it do not dispute Milankovitch cycles as the driver of the great ice ages.
Of course the CME would have come at a time when the Milankovitch influence was already working to end the last period of glaciation nearly 13,000 years ago. According to the theory, it would have come while the northwestern part of the Northern Hemisphere was facing the Sun during Summertime. The tilt of the Earth would put Antarctica out of its path.
A CME, basically being a small chunk of solar material of varying density throughout, would need to have a denser portion that struck a region most likely north of Washington, Oregon and Montana. It would create the same type of debris field that many researchers refer to as the YDB field and would be the reason for what is known in geology as the “black mat”.
Articles to both these terms are at https://phys.org/news/2014-08-year-old-nanodiamonds-multiple-continents.html
and https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259549416_Recent_Developments_in_the_Analysis_of_the_Black_Mat_Layer_and_Cosmic_Impact_at_128_ka
Further, their thinking goes that the force of the CME would have swept away part of the atmosphere existing over that area of North America which would have been replaced by a swift movement of the atmosphere mainly from Siberian regions. That rush of atmosphere providing an instantaneous drop in air pressure and temperature there which would explain the as yet unexplained flash frozen mammoths found there. It would also explain the masses of megafauna bones found in dense large quantities along a line in Siberia.
Accordingly, Africa and Australia would have come out a lesser extinction impact on megafauna which is seen particularly in the remaining extent of large African mammals.
I realize it sounds like a very spectacular event but there seems to be a continual mounting of evidence to support it.
The geology of the American northwest particularly shows very good evidence of a rapid onset of a short term flow of water at a depth of about 1,000 feet or more all across the topography where a rapid, partial melt-off of the Laurentide ice sheet would have flowed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHO00ISseY
I believe that none of this would in any way be incompatible with your very compelling holistic approach in developing the theory of crustal displacements and the dating of civilizations and their architectural wonders around the world.
One question I would ask, how is it that the intersecting alignments at the 5 polar locations remain intact over the years if the crust is in motion as the rotational axis of the Earth is also changing? Would not just a rotational axis shift preserve such consistency over time? It seems that a moving crust would also shift the relative positions of the ancient sites and serve to create inconsistencies between their clustered alignments relative to the pole they were aligned toward.
It might be helpful if you were to create a video showing how the crustal displacement proceeded in order that the alignments remain consistent.
Thank you for your input, Howard. To answer your question shortly, the crust deforms around the core. The direction of the spin axis does not change other than already proposed by Milankovitch. And because the crust deforms around the core (that keeps spinning according to Milankovitch’s tilt and precession cycles) moves the spin axis to another position on the crust. A structure that is once built in a certain direction cannot be changed by itself unless there were deformations of the crust, and that appears to be the case. The orientation patterns of many structures follow a certain node forming pattern.
The mathematical implications are also clear about another thing: the geographic North pole migrates, the geographic South pole hardly moves.
There is a lengthy explanation in the comment section on the FAQ page: https://mariobuildreps.com/faqs/
Outstanding work and presentation Mario. Congratulations on putting this all together and sharing it. I would like to ask of your thoughts on the events of the Younger Dryas Boundary and the apparent abruptness of those events.
Thank you,
AH
Thank you for your comment and compliment, Howard.
We have published an article on the Younger Dryas temperature excursion and explained how to interpret this event: https://mariobuildreps.com/younger-dryas-impact-hypothesis/
Our conclusion is that the Younger Dryas event was not unique. If you examine the number of temperature excursions over a period of 100,000 years instead of only some 15,000 years you discover there were more similar temperature excursions as that of the Younger Dryas. And because there were more similar excursions the likelihood that it was caused by a massive meteor impact suddenly drops to zero. That is something most researchers have never done. They don’t even seem to look beyond the first corner. That is a tragedy, especially because these people have chosen to “inform” less talented people about the “truth”. That is in our opinion a very large responsibility that some informers don’t seem to feel that way.
Because the temperatures regarding the Younger Dryas event are registered ONLY in the Greenland ice sheet and not in the Antarctic ice sheet it was a local event. That is maybe one of the reasons that people have started to speculate about meteor impacts. That is tempting because they are so spectacular. The most probable cause for the Younger Dryas event and the many other similar events are changes of oceanic circulations. The North Atlantic Drift as we know it today has a massive impact on temperatures of Northwest Europe. If it shows serious hiccups for a while due to decreased solar activity the average annual temperatures in North West Europe would drop overnight between 6 to 8 degrees C. The impact this would have on the relative small artic region is a multiple of this, hence the large excursion we witness in the Greenland ice sheet. Most of the harbors in Europe would freeze completely during Winter time. These simple facts seem to be completely disregarded when studying events like the Younger Dryas.
Thank you very much for your reply Mario.
You are of the opinion, then, that the quick melting of the Laurentide Ice Sheet does not present a so-called “energy paradox” that might be understood as a result of a large solar outburst (enormous CME) as per Robert Schoch as well as Doug Vogt?
I know Randall Carlson has looked in the direction of a meteor impact and I agree with you that is very unlikely. What I think is most informative with Carlson’s ideas is the evidence for a truly massive meltwater scarring across the northwest states of the US.
Also indications that a large portion (but not nearly all) of the ice sheet melted in as quickly as a matter of days.
Most probably not. The first thing that researchers who believe in a CME would have to address before jumping to any conclusion would be the match between eccentricity and the occurrence of ice ages. They are one on one, and nothing else is. The second thing would be the reason why the Greenland ice sheet is still there, why would it be untouched by this alleged massive solar outburst? The third thing they would have to address is why the Greenland ice sheet was the central region of the combined ice sheets (Laurentide+Greenland+Eurasian)? The fourth thing they would have to address, is why is the Greenland ice sheet there at all? There are probably many more things that need to be addressed but these are just a few of them.
Sure, there were spectacular melting events that were catastrophic but certainly not within matters of days. This process takes millennia, and that is one of the main reasons that so much evidence is gone – the time scale was immense in combination with the size of events that was also immense.
The melting of ice sheets within days sounds spectacular and thrilling but that is impossible. The heat of fusion simply prevents this. It would take the sun hundreds of years to melt the Greenland ice sheet alone if ALL the solar energy that hits the earth’s surface would be dedicated to melt the Greenland ice sheet alone. Number rules the universe.
Describing spectacular events as alleged facts based on certain observations, and not looking broader, are good for drawing attention, but if you perform calculations you see why this is untrue. Of course, you could try to argue that a CME would be thousands of times more powerful than the sun’s current activity, but then please show me the evidence for this claim. It is nowhere present, not in a single ice sheet. And if it would be a massive solar outburst, which was thousands of time more powerful than the sun’s current activity, how would the planet survive this? What would happen to the atmosphere? To the plants, animals, and all other life? There are extinction events, but how do they relate to alleged CME cycles? Where is the evidence to keep up the claim? How would such an event look like in the Antarctic ice sheet?
Come across your site while doing some “pursuing” of information on Giza pyramids. I am a scientist that loves graphs. The statistical analysis of your data is great — it would be great if you could have another group do the same “experiment” with the same sites and see if they come up with the same pole locations. I have a question and a comment:
Question: In discussing poles movement, sometimes it sounds as if you are saying Greenland moved over the pole, but it seems to me that you are trying to say that the pole moved over (through) Greenland. That would make a lot more sense as it would “fit” all current theories of plate tectonics and how Greenland as “moved” over the past 400,000 years. It would also match your animation comparing the spin axis of the earth and the relation of the extent of glaciation during the last ice age. I would not see it affecting the thought of Antartica being at the “south pole” as all south poles to your north poles end up on Antartica except for pole V which ends up not too far off the coast of Antartica.
Comment: It is very interesting (I do not think it is purely coincidental) that if one looks at the Becker-Hagens UVG grid system, all of your proposed poles match essentially exactly to line crossings with the exception of pole IV which you have at 64 degrees and the Hagen lines cross is at 67 degrees….For 5 locations to line up so exactly cannot be pure coincidence.
Thank you for your comment, Kirk. Anyone with sufficient knowledge of mathematics will reproduce similar results. We are looking forward to serious attempts. Greenland was indeed “catapulted” over the spin axis while the spin axis on Antarctica hardly changed position. That is no mistake as seen from our perception. It is the 1% mass of the crust that has been deformed over the 99% mass of the inner earth layers, hence moved Greenland over the spin axis and not vice versa. The spin axis of the earth as a whole does not change significantly. Crustal deformations, changes in crustal mass distribution, might have caused some additional wobbling on top of already present woblling.
The latitudinal movements of the Northern spin axis is imprinted in the ice sheet of Antarctica as a proxy. The closer the samples are taken to the South pole the better. Vostok is one of the best locations for that. Any changes in the location of the Northern spin axis relative to the southern spin axis will be “registered” in the ice sheets on the southern spin axis as a temperature mark. That is because both poles are very sensitive to temperature changes due to their relative small area.
In this article we have explained some of our ideas how this disproportionate displacement could have been caused. In combination with a high eccentric orbit, which caused large (on an annual basis) gravitational oscillations, we might have found the mechanism for crustal deformations other than the classical plate tectonics. Plate tectonics alone does not sufficiently explain this mechanism. Plate tectonics does not even explain geology’s own isochronic ocean floor map. We propose the massive deformation is caused by cycles of “growing pains” in combination with high eccentric orbit. This combination “knocks” the crust out of balance and causes deformation cycles over periods of tens of thousands of years.
The Becker-Hagens UVG grid system indeed matches almost the poles I, II and III and V. The grid does indeed not match pole IV. It must be said that the Becker-Hagens UVG grid system is quite dense which means that it easily matches anything we are looking for. It is nevertheless interesting indeed. A 4 out of 5 match (80%) is relatively high and it looks to be too coincidental to be unimportant.
Best wishes,
Mario and team
Dear , the Ancient Master Builders also align on precessional and galactic poles , those UVG ( Unified Vectoring Grids ) Buckminster – Hagens( like standard NP earth axe snapshot above Google Earth ) can be simulated as Google Earth overlays , see FBgroups & subgroups related , with obvious snapshots since many years https://www.facebook.com/groups/791622274195042 ( You can download the different generated overlay HTML for Google Earth from FB files and test Yourself ) You can simulate the phi grid above on different earth poles with simulator generator https://montalk.net/science/115/earth-grid-research ( i m a reader , not a researcher , at Your service from Brussels ; remark : i like to stay as unknown as possible )
Thank you Hugo for adding this info. Very interesting. I truncated your last name because you like to stay anonymous.
Dear , second feedback , important also i think for You : the colorcodings of Buckminster yin , yang and balance great circles : http://vortexmaps.com/hagens-grid-google.php : Your successive poles jump to yin , yang and balance CROSSINGS positions !! of antipodal great circles ! ( by the way , all , but realy all atomic test topology by realy all atomic power countries is on THE SAME ALIGNED similar type of crossings synchronized !! test Yourself in Google Earth overlays publicly available on the net , same for crop circles and Ufo topology , even Google Mars and Google Moon landings topology URSS and USA synchronized … todays advanced technology phi grids are the same , with the same alignments ! as icoshedral megalithic grids : antipodal Buckminster vectoring : labeled Yin ,Yang and Balance by Prof. Hagens Anthropology ( i m French , Amitiés de Bruxelles , near Paris ; remark i want to stay unknown ) )
The Giza pyramids were my entry point as well. Perhaps it makes sense that the author is using the pseudonym of “Mario Buildreps” as intellectual persecution is still alive and well. Four months ago, all that the Giza pyramids were to me were giant stone structures and a memorial to hard labor, then I learned about the internal structure and began doubting the mainstream beliefs and found myself going down this hole. I’m a software and hardware engineer. The internal structure of the Great Pyramid of Giza strikes me as a tuned resonator. ST’s application note AN2867 explains the math being doing the tuning in an electrical circuit, but I believe forms a starting point for research into the configuration of the structure.
I make no conclusions, except that I believe that what we are taught lacks credibility. Most alternative theories have also been easy to refute, but those on this site have occupied me for months, attempting to replicate the research and develop a system to take all structures of unknown origin, test those, and ensure that the data on this site wasn’t cherry-picked to support the author’s theory.
Exploration of the Great Pyramids by Howard Vyse and J. Perring were made in 1837. For perspective, Richard Owen didn’t realize that dinosaur fossils were from extinct critters until 1841. The modern views show all ancient structures as being less than 6,000 years old. The irrefutably and general acceptance of evolution and the earth being older than 6,000 years (something that was rarely questioned until people starting seeing dinosaurs in museums all over the world) allows us to reach back and question the ages of these structures. The political issues still remain regarding archaeology and anthropology, being largely western sciences and the power of western religions during the times of these theories drove funding and publication, and adherence to those theories grants power to the professionals in the field. Power structures, especially corrupt ones, rely heavily on being known as all powerful and all knowing. In such cultures, speaking out against what the authorities state is absolute and known may as well be sedition.
The Great pyramid was built, primarily, to last long* enough to communicate its message to civilisations who would be able to understand and have need of that message. This message is so important to h sapiens it is encoded throughout mankind’s culture (mythology, etc.). You will even find the same essential message in the Lascaux cave painting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/871930.stm (depicting the celestial gnomon: Pleiades->Taurus->Orion = Sirius [ http://theopenscroll.com/images/symbols/celestialLocationPleiadesSiriusOrionBelt.jpg ] ).
* Of the order of platonic years: https://ascendingpassage.com/plato-atlantis-critias.htm
I have been independently attempting to verify your coordinates and angles and they appear to be mostly consistent with the results that I’m seeing as well. The approach that I’m using is to select the structures that you mention on Google Earth, use the ruler tool to measure the angle and the cursor to determine the center of the structure. I have Google Earth configured to use the decimal coordinate system and am using the following formula to calculate 10,000 coordinates at 1nm increment and generating a KML file. The result is that the lines cross where you show in your images:
lat/lon/tc(true course or angle) are in radians and distance is radian distance (distance in nm*pi/(180*60)); 1nm is approximately 1 minute: earth’s circumference is approximately 21,600 nm, or 360 * 60. The formula listed shortcuts 2*pi/360 as pi/180.
lat =asin(sin(lat1)*cos(d)+cos(lat1)*sin(d)*cos(tc))
dlon=atan2(sin(tc)*sin(d)*cos(lat1),cos(d)-sin(lat1)*sin(lat))
lon=mod( lon1-dlon +pi,2*pi )-pi
Thank you for your interesting comment and your verification work, Alan. How many structures did you use? Can you provide a link to your pics?
I’ve only used a handful by name that were listed on your site that I picked at random to verify your data. I don’t have pictures; the software I wrote generates KML files that I would dump into Google Earth. While I know the accuracy of measurements on the GE imagery isn’t exactly LIDAR, it was sufficient for my purposes of verifying your math. There are a lot of bogus websites out there with all sorts of outrageous claims where the math fails and before subscribing to your theories I wanted to verify your math. I am getting the same results as you.
I started by entering a few of the Chinese Pyramids, The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan, Tel Afec and Edzna, visually identified the intersection point over Greenland. I then measured the distances from the current North Pole to the Khufu Pyramid and drew a line of the same length as that measurement, following the line from the Pyramid of the Sun and the end point was inside of the cluster of intersecting lines.
I also have a theory on how to quickly aggregate data from the OpenStreetMap database to quickly approximate points. I haven’t tested it yet, but there are tags, such as “ruins” that could be used to help find ancient structures. The thought is that all structures that have a side that points above a certain latitude could be initially included. Buildings built in recent history might leave too much static, but the thought is that a scattering of the intersecting points should yield hot spots in your former poles. The math for determining intersecting points rapidly should be computationally feasible.
Thank you for your comment, Alan. Very interesting what you are doing. We are pleased to hear that you try to verify our research. It could be so that the distance between Giza and pole I, and Teotihuacan and pole III is the result of coincidence. But it is a very awkward result and on top of that are the bases of Khufu and Teotihuacan’s pyramid of the sun also similar. Do you have any means to publish your results? If so, can you leave us a link to your results?
I am still working on things and have been very busy with work. I had to purchase additional SSDs to load the newest version of the data and the initial load finished this morning. I will keep you updated and I am still very much alive and working on this. I did write a website that enables extrapolation and generates KML based on a coordinate and true course to draw the lines, but I don’t yet want to publish it to the world.
Hi Mario, amazing ideas that really inspire thought – keep up the good work – can’t wait for the book!
I wondered if there was any update – increased/decreased confirmation of Pole Vl.
Hi Peter, thank you for your comment. The book is in progress and will still take some time to complete. We cannot prove Pole VI yet, unfortunately.
I cannot wait for your book to come out !
Dear Mario
I am sorry to trouble you, but somewhere on your site was a diagram of the moon phases around Stonehenge. I copied it as I found it fascinating and also answered my question about 18.5 years. But my computer hasn’t picked it up please could you tell me where it is. I have always believed we were here before. Best
You can find that in the video below in the article about Stonehenge: https://mariobuildreps.com/purpose-stonehenge/
Moon phases are pretty complicated, and we have called the extremes Lunastices. There are no diagrams in the article of the moon phases, because that is useless. Stonehenge was pointed towards Pole IV hence it was located at another latitude, between 63 and 64 degrees latitude. At this latitude is there a phenomenon indeed once in every 18.5 years that is called the Major Lunar Standstill. At these occasions are the Lunastices more extreme than usual. At Stonehenge’s original latitude (between 63 and 64) was there an unusual phenomenon to be witnessed; that of a moon that circles around the site without setting completely. The latitude just below the polar circle is still a latitude where this happens every 18.5 years and is the lowest latitude where this can be witnessed.
Hello again Mario. Thank you for your informative response to my question on Hotspots. If I may, I have two further questions. You have observed that the pole position over Antarctic has not moved to the same degree as over the Arctic. You also commented that you believed this was due to compression in the Atlantic and stretch in the Pacific. Now my questions: Firstly, how far and in what direction do you believe the Antarctic Pole shifted in the last 350,000 years? Secondly, could the compression in the Atlantic have been caused by the Eurasion Plate sliding under the African plate, or vice versa? If the answer to my second question is yes, this could explain the disappearance of Atlantis, if indeed the city was located west of the Pillars of Hercules, as asserted by Plato. Your thoughts on these matters.
We currently do not know for sure (yet) how to interpret the data regarding this topic. The North was very mobile, while Antarctica was fixed, that is very certain. More research is needed to find conclusive answers how and why the earth was deformed in this typical way. We suspect that the ideas of Atlantis were incorrect interpretations, as if it was one place or island, while in fact it was a global catastrophe over the course of many millenniums.
Hi, I am curious as to how it could be that some say Antarctica was a lush liveable area as little as 10,000 years ago, does the data support a southern pole shift in any way?
Hi Hakon, it is very unlikely that Antarctica was a livable place some 10,000 years ago. Antarctica hardly changed its position on the globe over the last half million years. The so called blue ice on Antarctica is over two million years old. The data supports no significant shifts over the last half million years.
How does the Piri Reis map fit into this?
That’s hard to say, it is something we haven’t studied. A map could be the product of someone’s fantasy, like the books from Tolkien. It could be something huge after all, but a map is similar as that of stories; they are hard to prove to be true.
Just to follow up regarding the Piri Reis map: here is some information you should be aware of which indicates the map is not showing us Antarctica. Take a look at either https://www.fringepop321.com/the-piri-reis-map.htm or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCoivJ1wOgs
Hello Mario.
I’m fascinated by your article and work. I’m not a scientist but curious researcher of origins of humanities and ages of civilizations, including universal catastrophism theories. I fully concure with your estimates on the ages of archeological structures which appear self evident. However I also subscribe to earth’s unstable geology and abrupt disruption of climate, living organisms, and academic established norms of stability and uniformity of global established continuity of life and universal predictability. The Electric Universe (EU) is more compatible for planetary movements and solar cycles than nuclear and gravitational status quo.
My personal question to you is how would you account for global catastrophic records in geological and glacial evidence of mass extinction events and global floods recorded in all those ancient monuments which you have studied? While I have read many stories related to global upheavals the one that has surfaced recently has a ring of historic truth in events descriptions that suggest sudden crust displacements of such magnitude that are more immediate than gradual polar displacements you have suggested.
Here is new story I found from USA government called “story of Adam and Eve” that seems quite real and despite others confirmations from Russian academicians and EU.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp79b00752a000300070001-8
I’m just curious how you would characterize this story and its supporting research? Thank you, Jon
Thank you for your comment, Jon. To directly answer your question. If I understand you question correctly; everything is pointing to very slow changes of the crust. There are no earthly changes that take place overnight, except maybe an asteroid impact. These changes take place very slowly over a period of many generations, tearing down developed civilizations over a course of many millenniums back into a new Stone Age. Myths and stories of lost civilizations are born, memories are lost in the mist of time.
The usual timelines of just a few thousand years, like the ones that we also see in this recently disclosed document, are not based on science. They are based on underbelly feelings which are fed by our conditioning that Homo sapiens started to built things just a few thousand years ago. Homo sapiens is around on earth for more than 400,000 years. It needs no brilliant mind to understand that Homo sapiens was as capable 400,000 years ago as we are today – it is simply in our species and does not rely on schooling or study. Studies make us more usable in the economy. Brilliant minds on the other hand are of all time.
The secret services do not know much more than the general public and are groping on this topic as much in the dark as everyone else. Many of the material in this document is based on research of Charles Hapgood. I love the work of Charles Hapgood (who doesn’t?), because it is original. But because his work neglects too much good scientific data it is unreliable. Most of his claims rely on just a few observations. Hapgood neglected the Milankovitch cycles completely. The ice core data from Greenland and Antarctica were not yet available. Hapgood concluded that the geo pole was at the Hudson bay and based his conclusion on magnetic pole movements. But if the crust shifts and the magnetic pole moves you cannot establish a correct position on magnetic pole movements alone – this equation simply lacks data.
It is suggested by Hapgoods and other researchers that the crust would shifts within matters of hours, maybe a few days. There is no force present to make that happen. This timelines is simply nonsense and not supported by any well documented scientific data. The facts are that the crust has long periods of stability and long periods of instability.
Well, there is a force present that can cause crustal shift, and global upheaval in a matter of hours.
Every 12,000 years the Earth inverts its spin axis 180 degrees, and the crust may shift (by 10-20 degrees or so) as a consequence (as you observe, subject to a fixed pair of crustal pivot points).
This is because the Sun is in a 24,000 year orbit about its binary twin, and as a consequence oscillates between two oppositely polarized magnetic fields.
As The Earth becomes subject to the opposing field, it appears as if the Earth’s magnetic field is reducing, and its magnetic poles are drifting (at an accelerating rate). Eventually, and relatively suddenly, The Earth destabilizes and inverts, resuming stability for another 12,000 years.
But, yes, there is no global warming or cooling phase (aside from a volcanic ash induced Fimbulvetr), and so ice cores should only infer a local temperature change, as opposed to a global one.
This knowledge, and the moment of inversion, is thus well encoded throughout mankind’s culture, e.g. The Zodiac, the Vesica Piscis, the celestial gnomon drawn from the Pleides via Taurus, through Orion, etc.
Hello Mario. Has any work been done on the movement of Hotspots along plates, to confirm or deny your theory?
Hi Derrick, that is one of the many topics still on our list. There is some work done on hotspots. The most famous and clearest hotspots are those of Hawaii. The distances between the hotspots on Hawaii appear to follow the same sequence as our discovered pole sequences. The distances from Hawaii to Maui, Maui to Moloka’i, Moloka’i to O’ahu, O’ahu to Kaua’i are resp. of the same sequence as Pole I to Pole II, Pole II to Pole III, Pole III to Pole IV, and Pole IV to Pole V. The probability that the pole sequences, the glaciation sequences, and the sequences between major hotspots are coincidentally of similar size is very small. It is around 1 to 65,500 for these patterns to match all three coincidentally. We are certain that they are closely related and are thus related to the most recent glaciation cycles as well.
This pattern of hotspot movement confirms our theory.
The datings of the hotspots of Hawaii are probably incorrect, i.e. they are much younger. Geology presents conflicting data concerning the age of ocean floors (isochrons) and the dating of the hotspots of Hawaii, that why it is impossible for them both to be correct.
Not sure if the ley lines of the planet, of which seem to be a primary staple in regards to the pyramid location, are an accurate dissemination of planetary weather patterns. At most what this shows is that there is an electromagnetic commonality to the progression of how the planet rotates in relation to atmospheric conditions and solar activity. Does pole shifts alter this theory? Or do the travel patterns of the for mentioned pyramids shift in directions? Crossing over one another in a longer sine wave like rotation?
Hi Roman, we know that the ley line ideas are very popular among some alternative researchers. But these ideas are not well documented, not well researched, and are mere ad hoc visual observations. Most ancient structures are simple neglected in these researches. We do not agree with the idea that ley lines, “electromagnetic commonalities” and pyramid locations are what you call “accurate dissemination of planetary weather patterns”. We have done some research to the phenomena and found no connecting data. Yes, you can “connect the dots” if you neglect 95% of the other ancient structures. But that is of course no good research.
No, it does not effect our research in any way. It has nothing to do with each other. Please show us one well done research supported by data and probability calculations that your assertions are accurate and maybe even true. Packing ideas in nice phrases and using fancy words does not mean ideas are necessarily true.
Why do you give so much importance to “academia”?
University was invented in XI century, it is a medieval invention, a medieval thing with proud of been medieval.
Non sense and idiot theories are the tradition in “academia”. Why don’t you calculate the % of wrong theories in the group of all “academic” theories in history of “academia”? With that numbers you will see the real value of “academia” and “academics”.
“Academia” had the monopoly of access to the existent knowledge until internet came. That monopoly do not exist any more, we can see and learn your theory without approval of “academia”. Why do you insist in that medieval institution already outdated?
Without the monopoly of knowledge everybody can see most of academics are simply morons, as their theories show, and % of wrong theories of “academia” demonstrate.
So please explain your theory without these omnipresent looking for approval of “academics”. Forget the “academics” remember the ridiculousness number of wrong theories accepted and used by them.
By the way, if the “academia” accept your theory as true the probability of that theory be wrong is much more higher, as you can see in the ratings of true theories of “academia”.
So many bits and pieces, I am very interested in having the puzzle pieces fit together.
Michael Steinbrenner has a video posted to the electric universe which as merit. Brian Foerster has a video regarding the high Inca and pre-Ince structures in Peru. Archeoacoustics are dealt with in a video on Megalithomania by J Swagger.
I’ve heard W Brown’s theory of Hydroplanes read by B Nichol. I’ve read More Than 60 Minutes by TS Niazi regarding Earth’s acquired outer core magnetic field.
I am leaning toward a global dust cloud of massive magnetism enveloping the Earth disappearing the Moon for some time. This dust cloud settled on the Earth becoming a new lithosphere of small-grained granite, particularly in areas of highly magnetic rocks. Across the world early humans had to continually excavate their well water source producing the deep sacred wells of India. Ancient rivers disappeared forcing the humans to relocate.
Did we draw this magnetic dust from a magnetar? Was it created by a plasma strike where energy>mass>matter? Did a sound wave shock the coatings of the pyramids to dust? Is this secondary lithosphere the reason we have deep earthquakes in the original surface that transfer to the upper surface? Did the dust create new continents in different areas but of the same shape as RobertYeahright’s video suggests? Has the magnetism once present in this dust now degraded indicting our lost knowledge?
Lastly, the ancient Egyptians invested strongly in the preservation of Ba and kA which was unknown and unpracticed prior to the Old Kingdom which points to the time of a global catastrophe as Firestone, West, and Warwick-Smith suggest in their book the Cycle of Continuing Catastrophes.
Hello Mario, I have read your research carefully. I agree largely with the same ideas, but I wonder if in reality the orientations of the different pyramids are not really based on a certain specific latitude. For example, Chichen Itza is the 22nd run of the axis and therefore, should not we assume that the pole could have been anywhere in the 68th parallel? I think that the orientation of the different monuments may be related to a polar displacement, as you well indicate, but why not assume that what these ancient monuments actually indicate is the parallel where the pole used to be?
Hi Mariano, thank you for your comment. I do not understand what you mean with your example of Chichen Itza (22nd run and 68th parallel).
I understand your reasoning and even your doubts maybe about our method. When you take a few steps back and look at how the (currently) 591 sites and monuments are oriented we see that on the Western hemisphere they are largely clockwise oriented (fig 7) and on the Eastern hemisphere they are largely counterclockwise oriented (fig 8). The probability that this is a coincidental configuration is zero percent. They apparently converge to a certain path. This path appears to be at 47.1W and runs over Greenland of all possible locations on Earth. The rhythm between the nodes appears to be following the rhythms of the ice ages. In other words there are no assumptions in our method, we only follow what the data tells us.
When we zoom in on large sites like for example Chichen Itza we see that the individual building on the site follow exactly that same rhythm. You can read that article here: https://mariobuildreps.com/true-age-chichen-itza/
Excellent insights in a world of interesting probability. More people should know about you and your work.
As a visual artist may I suggest a different set of colors for the lines to the Cardinal Structures differentiating each pole shift, for clarity.
I find that all you say math implies, is inspiring.
Thank-you for sharing your world view!
Thank you for your comment and your suggestion, Tom.
Hi Mario. Your work is beyond fascinating. For those who understand statistics and correlation, what you’ve done is convincing.
I read this paper and immediately thought of your work.
http://suspicious0bservers.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Paper-1.pdf
In this paper it is shown how the solar polar magnetic fields are related to earthquake activity, and that during times of sunspot minimum like we are right now, electrical input from the solar environment causes the crust to move.
I wonder if what they’ve discovered provides the causative forces you’ve identified in the movement of the crust.
Keep up the good work
Hi Pete, thank you for your comment and the encouragement! There are indeed relations between solar activity and earthquakes. We have found a one on one relation between eccentricity and crustal deformations. The driving force is oscillating gravity.
Can I please get a link that explains the mathematics behind the oscillating gravity phenomena? I want to understand the detailed physics behind how an eccentric orbit modifies Greenland’s crust.
There is no link. It is one of the inevitable conclusions of our research. It is not even very difficult. Eccentricity is the only phenomenon that correlates with glaciation cycles. Eccentricity comes with much gravitational variation between the revolving bodies. This gravitational force (from the sun) is an external force that interferes with the rotation of the rotating earth.
The lightest part of the earth that also rotates the fastest, the crust, reacts the most violent on this external force and starts to crawl and deform in a direction that is perpendicular to the direction of rotation. This motion is of the same principle as that of a spinning top but then more complicated. The crust starts to deform unequally because some parts of the crust are more firmly connected to the inner layers than other parts.
This process of one deformation cycle goes very slowly, for instance from pole III to pole II, takes place over tens of thousands of years. It is a mystery why mainstream science with all their budgets and clever minds hasn’t found this out themselves. We are, with this new discovery, decades ahead of mainstream science.
I just saw a program on the Baltic sea island “Bornholm”, and the alignment of the various churches built during the 12th century, but based on older information. Have you ever looked at the data? One of the churches was out of total alignment by 11 feet. Any info you have would help me. It was associated with “holy blood holy grael” and the templars. The Templars did a lot of digging in the middle east around Jerusalem and I wonder if what they found there was of significance. An example was the formation of pentangles and the mathematics show that they knew the circumference of the world (world being round), when all thought the world was flat.
Jim
Hi Jim, thank you for your comment and your support! Much appreciated. The island of Bornholm was once covered with the massive Scandinavian ice sheet. If there were ancient ruins of before the ice ages they are most probably crushed. The crust became stable around 26,000 years ago while the ice sheets retreated from that region around 12,000 years ago. It seems therefore very likely that all foundations are younger than 12,000 years. The Templars knew some of the secrets of the ancient world and that they have found artifacts of interest is beyond any doubt. They took it with them and locked it away in the dungeons of the Vatican far away from preying eyes.
Wish you all the best,
Mario
Olá Mario Buildreps, sua informações são excelentes.
Faço pequenos vídeos(pouca duração), e te pergunto:
Me autoriza copiar suas informações, e no vídeo que eu fizer, vou colocar na descrição direcionando para sua página.
Aguardo sua resposta, caso SIM autorizando, desde já te agradeço, SENÃO, sem problemas.
Abraço
No problemo, amigo. Por favor, observe-nos o que e quando você publica suas informações. O conteúdo deve ter o nosso acordo. (Eng: Please notice us what and when you publish your information. The contents must have our agreement.)
Hi Mario,
Thank you for your very insightful website! It is amazing that mathematics can show the ancient antiquity of humankind. Ancient people were always very knowledgeable about mathematics. According to the ancient Vedic scriptures, which have a lot of mathematic formulas in them, humankind has always moved through cycles of evolution and devolution. I am not sure about the exact numbers, but according to one Puranic astronomical estimate, the four Yugas have the following durations:
Satya Yuga equals 1,728,000 Human years
Treta Yuga equals 1,296,000 Human years
Dvapara Yuga equals 864,000 Human years
Kali Yuga equals 432,000 Human years
Different authors have interpreted these time spans in different ways.
In the Satya Yuga, humans were gigantic, powerfully built, honest, youthful, vigorous, erudite and virtuous. Everybody was happy and saintly. There was no agriculture or mining. In the Treta Yuga, emperors began to conquer the world and agriculture and mining started. In the Dvapara Yuga, the average lifespan decreased to a few centuries. People had diseases and fought with each other. We are now in the Kali Yuga (since the year 3102 BCE), and the lifespan falls to only 70 years. It is the age of ignorance and darkness. People have become sinners and lack virtue. The environment is polluted, water and food become scarce. Family bonds deteriorate. At the end of the Kali Yuga, humans will have a height of only one meter.
So, the Vedas are also talking about human beings living on Planet Earth since a very long time. And civilizations rise and fall, presently falling. I have read one author hypothesizing that perhaps the australopithecines were survivors of some previous Kali Yuga, thus only one meter in height and diminished in intellect. After each 4-Yuga cycle, there is a major cataclysm before the cycle starts again with the Satya Yuga. And between each Yuga there is a minor cataclysm.
I find that your theory fits very well with the ancient wisdom of the scriptures. If modern mainstream science was more sophisticated and if scientists would leave their dogmas behind, then they would discover that the ancients knew it all along.
Thank you for your comment, Sophie. When it comes to Yugas there is only one reliable source: Yukteswar. Yukteswar explains in his book “The Holy Science” why the Vedic texts went wrong with their time frames, the time frames that you mention here. Yukteswar’s proposed cycles are in line with the precession of the equinoxes. Yukteswar’s book is not easy to read but contains tons of precious information.
Hi Mario,
I would like to add one correction here: the time scales rejected by Sri Yukteswar are found in the Puranas, not the Vedic literature. The Vedic literature comprises the Vedas, Aranyakas, Brahmanas and the Upanishads (the Bhagavad-Gita is considered an Upanishad), whereas the Puranas were composed after the birth of Jesus. Personally speaking, I agree with everything he said about the Yuga cycles, except their time scales, which I think is 2700 years every Yuga, followed by a 300 year gap between two consecutive Yugas.
Hi Rajat, thank your for the correction and the addition.
Your comment very interesting, but if the eccentricity is the ONLY variable creating our past geographic pole movement, wouldn’t science do just what it is doing now? Ignore any cycles, but use the information in economic planning to maintain superior control of the population? They wouldn’t care about planned births or population levels as they would expect end-time cataclysms to reset to near zero and bring the recycled onset of low population? Speaking of low population, bear in mind we are a nuclear society with no way to reduce the deadly radiation, so why assume there is a cycle when it is actually humanity’s tech itself that destroys itself?
MB, I have been on a recent quest for information that has taken me to the theories of Velikovsky, Sitchin and Hapgoods. Regarding Hapgoods theory of crustal shift resulting in pole shifts. As I understand it He concentrates on the scientific proof for the mechanics of crustal shifts for which he had a (partial) endorsement by Albert Einstein) but I haven’t got as far as to the reasons why or how he positioned the previous 3 pole locations other than carbon dating of vegetation found on iceland(?). The locations he has for the pole seem more ‘circular’ as opposed to your longitudinal direction and the timeline more compact, 4 shifts in 80,000 years as opposed to your 100,000s yrs.
Have you considered his theory and data when developing your methods?
I have to admit to being overwhelmed by the amount of theories and information that is emerging at the moment, you have to wonder if it is coincidence or something else. It is clear that past civilisations had a much more superior knowledge of the stars, solar system and The Earth than we gave them credit for. There is one question that I always end up asking myself. In antiquity, if people developed their knowledge by observing the night sky then they must have been observing for a minimum of 26,000 years to account for a full precession cycle, or have I missed something?
Hi Terry, we are aware of the theories as produced by Velikovsky, Sitchin and Hapgood. It was Hapgoods ideas that inspired me to do serious research into this topic using all modern data that is available to us. Hapgood made a few errors in his research; 1) the assumption that large bodies of ice cause crustal displacements and 2) he used paleomagnetic data and carbon dating in his research.
Ad 1) large bodies of ice always form around the spin axis. When land around the spin axis is asymmetrical the main ice mass will be asymmetrical as well, so indeed a centrifugal force is born. Hapgood suggests on his ideas a few displacements within the last 100,000 years in all sorts of directions. He is clearly onto something but his movements are too abrupt to be taken seriously. Ad 2) Hapgood used also paleomagnetic data to determine the spin axis positions. It’s easy to see that this is highly incorrect when the magnetic pole has moved all over the place in the last 80,000 years. All conclusions are then inaccurate and even incorrect.
Sure, there is a lot of hocus pocus around on the internet about ancient history and ancient civilizations. But who has more data than us? In fact, we are the first to have combined all the data available today into a bigger picture.
About precession cycles. How has modern science determined with high accuracy that a full precession takes almost 26,000 years? The only way is to use observations and mathematics, and that is something our ancient ancestors knew how to use as well. There is however as far as I know no public data available that show the observations and calculations how modern science came to the conclusions of such cycles based on observations of only a century or so. It’s not unthinkable that new discoveries in this field will be made in the coming decades.
MB, thank you for your reply; separating the wheat from the chaf of credible information is a task but what evolves is an element of each theory that provides a credible story. However, no matter which way you look at it they all require a good run of observation and knowledge which your method provides. Thank you.
Hi Mario,
Thanks for your reply to my comment on the The Secrets of Stonehenge – An Ancient Message video.
There are many positive comments here, and in all your videos; I applaud your wise yet always courteous responses.
We can all see, you really are sitting on a massive discovery and will likely have to tread on a difficult path to get that ultimate and final recognition for it.
Not sure if you mention this in the website yet but if I may, I would like to ask a question related to the moons equivalent word for Solstices.
In the video The Secrets of Stonehenge – An Ancient Message, the word “Lunsastices” is used to describe the moons rising and setting motions. What I do not understand is why this word does not appear in the online OED, Websters or even Google. Yet I see the word referenced in other texts online relating to “the lunar standstill (lunastice).” Which, is exactly what Google refers to.
How can this be?
Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill, I understand your confusion about Lunastices. A Lunastice is for the Moon what a solstice is for the Sun. Lunastices and Lunar Standstill are somewhat related. During the Lunar Standstill is the Lunastice extreme.
Hi Mario, I had never seen that word before until I saw the video and actually paused to look it up.
This is where my confusion comes from – It’s not a word found in the most authoritative dictionary.
My problem is trying to understand how we can have a word clearly used by the archaeology community et al, that isn’t in a dictionary.
However, I discovered this – http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lunistice
Here, it is spelled with an i and not an a…. but the waters get even muddier when, whether it is Lunistice or Lunastice neither are in the Oxford English Dictionary or Merriam Webster online.
Indeed, the-free-dictionary web page includes interesting citations and also a reference to Wikipedia under the small USA flag for word pronunciation. When you click Wikipedia it takes you straight to a spectacular page about Lunar standstill. Never mentions lunistice again.
The ONLY reason I even highlight any of this is purely for your information to use in staving off those often loud mouthed individuals who love to pick holes in anything just for the sake of it. I just imagine somebody saying, “oh look they are using fake words – ahhh the whole thing must be fake”. None of us here wants that to happen!
In the immortal words of Forest Gump – that’s all I’m going to say about that.
Cheers, Bill
Hey, Mario. I think your theory has some merit. Would you post on this site the entire list of monuments so others could test your methods. I like your graphs, and tables, but its better for some of us to have the raw data.
Thank you for your comment, Carl. It is privately funded work. If it would be publicly funded you would have a point. You can read the conclusions for free on this website. Why would we also make the data available for free?
I would be also very interested in getting your data in order to promote it with many others including scientists and researchers. Nowadays, I do not see why not release freely the database. Unless you want to make money for it. If this is the case, you should put a price on it. If you do not know how to make money on it you should consider some help. Nevertheless, not having someone or a group of people working on your data it will never get credibility until someone repeat your efforts. If the issue is not about monetising your idea, I can also imagine that you already have an strategy. The better you explain your purposes here the less frustration people will experience in this page. Sincerely
Hi Taboas,
There is a price on the database. It is either pay for information or to do all the work yourself. In the latter case you will have to find out what to do with all the rough data. Peer reviewing the conclusions is a whole other trajectory which is already done by an independent scientist. I’m not interested to share the data with “just” someone.
Waiting pensively for the book…any date yet?
I believe this information needs to be in libraries everywhere.
Let’s do that before it’s to late…all the best.
Firstly, is there any way to slow down your map showing the poles, so I can read the temples associated with the various poles.
Secondly what are your opinions of.
-Schoch.
-Bauval.
-West.
-Hancock.
and their various theories.
Puma pumku is of interest to me, it was this site where it was said that the builders got it wrong as to the cardinal points. Do you have any theory as to the rapid melting of the ice sheets, or did they melt because the pole shifted to a warmer clime.
Jim
Thank you for your comment, Jim. Yes they can be slowed down but that would take away the helicopter view. In time there will be a list of sites, and if you want to have more details you can go to this paper we have published. You will find a long list of Latin-American sites with their GPS locations and orientations.
Regarding the researchers, I believe they are all sincere researchers, they all have a better understanding of our ancient past than mainstream archaeologists have, although they still lean too much on speculative assumptions.
About Puma Punku, the builders were not wrong about the cardinals, on the contrary. The ages of this site are off the scale. Kalasasaya is built in two stages, the oldest, the outside perimeter is most probably around 26,000 years old. The geographic South pole is much more stable than the geographic North pole, although it moved much less than the geo North pole, and that is the reason why we see a correlation between a slightly clockwise orientation as the site is covered with more soil. We are working on dating of Tiwanaku. An exact age of Puma Punku is hard to pinpoint. We have found evidence for its age to range between 450,000 and 600,000 years.
You also asked something about Marcahuasi and Ruzo’s work on it? We have looked into this site superficially. They are probably too ancient to be dated accurately. Think of terms of millions of years.
I have come across a few sites where the historians say that the site is not aligned to the cardinal points and the builders were obviously inaccurate with their calculations for the time frame attributed to the construction. Could it be possible to calculate the date from their actual orientation. Also there is a lot of gumph about a coming polar shift. Is it pole shift or crustal displacement that shows up as pole shift.
Jim
Hi Jim, of course is it possible to take a look at them. You can post the sites you want to be examined here or send us an e-mail at buildreps@gmail.com
Ancient builders were not ignorant from the ancient cardinal directions, far from it, their calendar and time system and thus their survival was depending on it for crucial things like sowing and harvesting.
There is a lot of nonsense about pole shifts and that doom is coming soon, or that the latest pole shift took place within matters of days. No wonder that scientists are laughing at these “theories”, if it’s even worth to call them a theory. It are ideas lacking sufficient data. There probably won’t be a pole shift, neither magnetic or crustal, within the coming centuries. Our future generations however will see an increasing seismic and volcanic activity.
there is already a lot more seismic activity!
That is true. Volcanic activity has quadrupled over the last 200 years. Every volcano eruption equals an earthquake, or vice versa.
Fantastic article, very informative. I wonder why the other experts of this sector do not notice this. You should continue your writing. I am confident, you’ve a huge readers base already!
MB, I am fascinated with your theory, I look in regularly since I discovered it a few months ago. I’ve struggled for a long time with the standard explanations we have been fed from scientists and religious leaders. I came across the Electric Universe theory, which again challenges everything we’ve ever been told more recently such as ‘The Big Bang’, black holes etc. I’m not qualified to challenge ‘The Theory of Everything’ but I have never been comfortable with it, it is easier to understand that the universe has always been and that it is almost like a living entity of which parts of it are born, die and then reborn rather than once there was nothing from which everything burst into life.
However back to your theory; If you accept that the Electric Universe is a possibility and that the devastation of plasma exchanges between planets happened during planetary changes in orbits (something NASA have mentioned in the past when trying to explain the strange orbits and position of our solar system) with the potential to lift, move and in parts destroy the crust, could this explain the changes in orientation potentially over a shorter period of time?
I am a fan of your theory, and I believe our civilization has been on this planet much longer than we are told, but there is something in this EU theory that we can’t ignore.
Thank you for your comment, Terry. Maybe we will join forces with other researchers one day. The idea of the Electric Universe is very fascinating. Our main interest is the origin of humanity because to really understand where we came from lifts many veils.
I couldn’t agree more; History and humanity (the species & origin) is far more complex than the historians would want us to believe. I would be fascinated what the likes of Robert Schoch (sp?) would think, particularly as your and his date for the Pyramids and Sphinx are in the same ball park. Thank you for this and keep up the excellent work you and your team are doing.
That comment about plasma strikes in the northern hemisphere made me consider the possibility that was the reason Greenland was bare of ice 200 million years ago. 5 million years ago the Mediterranean was dry for 1/2 million years. IF our sun was the source of the energy that affected the Earth in its orientation, could not the plasma have added energy>matter>mass as to increase our Earth in size? Also H2O?
I guess moving north pole means expanding earth. During the Ice Age the earth rapidly expands. I think that the rotation of the earth is a Faraday motor with magma of the Pacific volcanic zone as the core. The Mariana Trench, Kuril Islands, Aleutian Islands are distorted terrain in an arc shape. This is a trace that the underground magma was dragged in the direction of rotation because the North Pole shifted every ice age.
I appreciate your wonderful research.
Thank you!
Thank you for your interesting comment, Kazunori. You are probably right in your conclusions and observations, we are still studying on the patterns before we can publish more on this specific topic. If it is true that the rotation of the Earth is a Faraday motor that would explain the wobbling of the magnetic field which in fact never flipped entirely. The combined patterns of magnetic wobble and crustal deformation could explain an alleged flip of the magnetic field when assumed the crust is almost static.
Thank you for your reply. The earth’s magnetic field is not inverted. What is considered paleomagnetic is a trace of relatively new ground current. The magnet has the phenomenon of demagnetization. It is a phenomenon in which magnetism is gradually lost. After 10,000 years most of magnetism will be gone.
There is an article written about the earth. Please read it.
https://etherealmatters.org/article/huge-hollow-inside-earth
https://etherealmatters.org/eugeology
Awesome thesis. I will be sure to do a follow up on all these fascinating points. Thank you for enriching my mind.
Hi there, just became aware of your website through Google, and found that it is really informative. I’m going to watch out for more. I’ll be grateful if you continue this in future. Lots of people will be benefited from your writing. Cheers!
Amazing Theory! Blown away…